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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:26 am 
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Is Mr T Mick in disguise :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Who knows? But I bet they share the same flawed union.

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J,D. The information you posted is what is required of a councillor, it is not how a council works, history is littered with court cases that have won, but at what cost, sefton in 1998-99 was taken to court same type of case,gentleman applied for h/c license and was refused.long and short of it was this he won,judge told sefton council they were wrong to refuse,but also said that he did not have the power to make them issue him with one.

The outcome of this was it cost sefton 22k .they had a survey a couple of months later,survey said they had 4 plates too many.

He never got a plate .Cab and p/h trade picked up the bill with increased licence fees.

Looking back at past posts.(not yours particularly) I see a lot of putting the trade down but nothing on how to inprove it

Past posts have said, comments such as "Fat cat owners" yet you seem to support a man who is applying for 20 plates.

What do you think he is going to do with them? Give them away :roll: :roll:


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T.D.O. IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN COME WITH, ( MR T ) good boy.


I'm afraid so :lol:

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T.D.O. IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN COME WITh . ( MR T ) good boy.


OK, Mr T, we heard you first time :-$

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OK Mr T, I'm sure that 'sad' people like myself are still waiting for your insight into how councils work.

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MR T wrote:
J,D. The information you posted is what is required of a councillor, it is not how a council works,


What do you think a council is made up of, chimpanzees? I know some councillors resemble chimpanzees but nevertheless they are councillors and they have to abide by the law when administering their duty. I don't know what you think a council is made up of but you are quite at liberty to tell us.

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history is littered with court cases that have won, but at what cost, sefton in 1998-99 was taken to court same type of case,gentleman applied for h/c license and was refused.long and short of it was this he won,judge told sefton council they were wrong to refuse,but also said that he did not have the power to make them issue him with one.


I never once referred to Taxi related court cases, I said "court cases" that means all court cases.

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The outcome of this was it cost sefton 22k .they had a survey a couple of months later,survey said they had 4 plates too many. He never got a plate .Cab and p/h trade picked up the bill with increased licence fees.


What's this nonsense got to do with what I posted and what you said about people on here being sad and not knowing how a council works? Aren't we straying away from the accusation somewhat Mr. T?

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Looking back at past posts.(not yours particularly) I see a lot of putting the trade down but nothing on how to inprove it


You can't stifle opinion just because you don't like the flavour of the posts. I wouldn't know whom you are referring to but no matter what they said they have a right to say it including Charlie, even though Charlie was intransigent in his point of view to the point of being absurd. You wouldn't want to stifle opinion would you and besides why should a member not be allowed to criticise councils, Taxi organisations, Unions or anyone else they deem to be undemocratic or just plain self-indulgent when it comes to equality and the way they operate.

You may wish for criticism's to go away, but you are doing the very same thing now. You made criticisms when you called everyone sad and they new nothing of how councils work. Perhaps you should take a long look at your comments and start by putting you're own house in order.

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Past posts have said, comments such as "Fat cat owners" yet you seem to support a man who is applying for 20 plates.


I have never in my life referred to owners as being "fat cat owners". I don't find it an issue how some people describe owners or non owners, it is entirely up to them if you have an issue with that I suggest you take it up with the individuals concerned.

It is quite remarkable how some people can read a post and respond with a completely unrelated and untrue argument. I never said I support Mr. Matthew's application for 20 plates and I expect an apology from you in that respect. I reported the fact that it was my understanding that he had applied for 20 plates.

I never gave an opinion one way or the other about his application only to say that I couldn't see how he was going to make twenty plates pay for themselves under the conditions of an open market. Perhaps you can show me something different?

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What do you think he is going to do with them? Give them away


Personally I would have thought that some might make their way to Standstead Airport but I really don't know enough about the situation down there so I would only be guessing.

What do you think he's going to do with them? He can't drive twenty cabs, in fact I would bet he doesn't even have a Hackney Carriage drivers License, even though his firm does own four cabs. I suppose he is going to pull 40 charitable Hackney carriage drivers out of thin air who want to line his pockets and empty their own just so Mr. Taxibus can make a profit on his investment.

Although you didn't realise it when you posted the above remark, Mr. Taxibus may be left with no other option but to hand some of those plates back.

I can't finish this post without saying you are beginning to sound and behave increasingly like Charlie. Perhaps Charlie's obsession of ignoring the content of a post and inserting his own gospel according to himself is rubbing off on others.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:01 am 
RAOTFLMFHO

THIS FORUM HAS SUDDENLY sparked into fun about time too!

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I can't finish this post without saying you are beginning to sound and behave increasingly like Charlie. Perhaps Charlie's obsession of ignoring the content of a post and inserting his own gospel according to himself is rubbing off on others.

Best wishes

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come come John you cant be so niaeve as to belive that!

oh dear you did say charlie had not gone!

pass the fast tan!


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Past posts have said, comments such as "Fat cat owners" yet you seem to support a man who is applying for 20 plates.

What you don't undersatnd is that when people apply for 20 plates, they don't get them.

But what does happen more often than not, is that councils get fed up with it all, and de-limit.

Which is why such chaps get my support. :wink:

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SUSSEX. 8) AS I SAID ( sad ) MR T.


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SUSSEX. 8) AS I SAID ( sad ) MR T.

Yes I see.

As will others at your total lack of coherent answers to the questions posed to you. :wink:

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What you don't undersatnd is that when people apply for 20 plates, they don't get them.


Thats bollocks Sussex, the owner of the largest PH office in Gateshead claims to have bought 40 brand new Fiat Doblo's, all of which will get licenses.

Or are you suggesting that people only apply for a large number of plates in restricted areas in an attempt to show unmet demand, and when derestricted they wouldn't continue with the applications for the same number of licenses.

I have told you many times how many more non-driver plateholders there are now in Gateshead, its nice to see you supporting the leeches. I'm sure though that you will hate them the second you get your plate, if that is Eastbourne ever deregulates.

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Thats bollocks Sussex, the owner of the largest PH office in Gateshead claims to have bought 40 brand new Fiat Doblo's, all of which will get licenses.

So what, you are in a de-limited area, thus the thrust of this thread is irrelevant to that point.

Wake up and read what's written. :shock:

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Or are you suggesting that people only apply for a large number of plates in restricted areas in an attempt to show unmet demand, and when derestricted they wouldn't continue with the applications for the same number of licenses.

Look, I could spend the next year or so trying to define existing case law in reference to who gets what plates when they are issued. But for all our sakes, I wont.

Save to say that if anyone applied for just one plate, they wouldn't get it. Well one person would, but that's highly unlikely to be the one that has applied. :? See what I mean?

However if they applied for loads, then they have got a good chance of a) getting some, and b) pushing a council into de-limiting.

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Save to say that if anyone applied for just one plate, they wouldn't get it. Well one person would, but that's highly unlikely to be the one that has applied. :? See what I mean?


So your saying that every council that maintains quotas is corupt. It seems that is what your implying.

The simple fact of the matter is that you can't have what you want because you don't want to buy something off someone who more than likely had to pay for it themselves. Your claims that every plateholder got their plate for free is so wide of the mark its untrue.

Your arguments are flawed by greed, you are a spoilt brat, wanting what someone else has worked hard for without either effort or financial investment.

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