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My point is that drivers are grown people, and don't need others making decisions for them.

By all means give them as many details as you wish. But let them decide what is best for them, not you deciding what is best for them.

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IDFIMH

It doesn't take rights away from the trade, it gives them back to all, not just the few.

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IDFIMH

I'm still in the trade cos I'm making money, and if a time came that I wasn't then I would be off.

Whether my earnings will rise following de-limitation, who knows? But it would be nice to have a choice.

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IDFIMH

The "managed growth" policy would be controled by the local authority and would look to increase provision if a un-met demand was identified.
Representatives from the trade should be consulted prior to a decision about an increase in numbers but that decision should be made ultimatly by the licensing authority.

Managed growth does NOT need to be managed by the T&G or any other representative body, but the current plateholders as well as anyone looking to enter the trade should be able to expect a decent standard of living from it.

Before any "managed growth" can be finalised the issue of premiums should be put to bed, the winning of the "plate lottery" as experienced in Brighton clearly identifies that allowing someone to sell the plate immediatly after it has been issued free from the authority is one of Sussex Mans primary concerns.

B. Lucky

That's what we have had for nearly twenty years, and every time a survey is done the HC trade fight it tooth and nail.

This is what has [edited by admin] so many off in authority.

You (the HC trade) have a system all ready that has been shown not to work. It ignores those that flag for a cab and it ignores those that have given up hope in the suburbs.

Thus leaving it to the PH trade to clear up, either legally or regrettably illegally.

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IDFIMH

Second to last posting.

Clearly biased and totally prejudice outlook. Full of jealousy. Your view is marred by your own particular wants. You stereotype all hackney drivers. Yet I bet you would jump up and down if ph drivers were stereotyped as the dreaded unlicensed minicab trade. My God! Why do I even bother looking at this drival.
ActualNews

I think you'll find that we don't have such a system, otherwise we wouldn't be asking for it.

You can regret your illegal activity as much as you want mate, but by acting in such a manner I would question your suitability and fitness to drive for hire at all.

The P/H trade don't clear up, they make more mess.

Before you start on your innane ramblings, I will ask this question yet again, WHY CAN I NOT RELY ON A P/H OPERATOR SENDING ME A CAR AT A SPECIFIC TIME AND PLACE ?

My opinion is that all of his drivers are picking up flaggers and are telling the desk staff that the booked fare wasn't there. So before you start berating the H/C trade I suggest you get the pre-booked market sorted out.

B. Lucky

For the same reason in your manor that customers can't rely on getting a taxi at a specific time and place.

However in a restricted manor, they have a duty to offer (in a broad way) a taxi at a specific time and place.

It doesn't happen in your manor, cos you council has seen the light and allowed drivers to decide for themselves, not you.

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IDFIMH

If you are a HC plate holder Managed growth is the lesser of two evils but it does nothing to pacify those people outside of the HC Trade who wish to enter it but cannot because of restrictions.

The only Authority that I know of that has such a so called policy as Managed growth is the one so frequently refered to in nearly every Report you read with regard to the current situation. That Authority is of course Manchester. However, I bet none of the authors of those reports or even the people who post in this Forum are aware of how such a policy came about.

Well your about to find out.

Back in 1992 there was a big uproar in Manchester because the council wanted to increase licences. in 1994 they succesfully issued 100 new plates. After 1994 there were several meetings with the manchester Cab committee where the council indicated they wished to increase the number of cabs on the town substantially. Manchester was becoming a high profile City with its bid for the Olympic games and subsequently the commonwealth games.

In the end the Council gave the Cab comittee an ultimatum, the council said they wanted to see a thousand cabs on the town and if the cab committee didn't agree to that, then they would deregulate.

Thats how you got your managed growth in Manchester, at present the licences are edging up to the 900 mark.

The problem you have with managed growth is deciding who should be first in line when it comes to issuing new licences.

What happened in Manchester was that the Criteria for issuing licences was renegotiated by the Cab committee and the council. The first criteria to be agreed was that those who had held a badge the longest were first in line regardless if you already had a plate.

Naturally this criteria suited the Cab comittee fine because most of those on the Cab committee along with a lot of their friends were all long serving badge holders. I'm not implying that the criteria was loaded in favour of long serving badge holders only that it worked against everyone else who wasn't.

I can see the point about Managed growth but it only serves those people who wish to exclude others from doing the same job that they are equally qualified.

Best Wishes.

John Davies
Manchester

Funny how that has never been mentioned.

I look forward to that being published in CTN, but as I like living, I wont hold my breath.

However John, I believe you are being very generous in not implying those that making the decision didn't do it for themselves, cos to me it's crystal clear they did.

And like a lot of things in this wonderful honest trade of ours, it stinks big time.

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IDFIMH

Sussex

thats bang out of order,
Manchester sees itself as Britains second city, and using airport revenues did well to organise the commonwealth games and has the worlds biggest football club.

Manchester is a city going places, and sees the value of a well coordinated transport system.

those making the decision did it with the cities interests at heart.

more people would do well to follow thier example.

instead of being selfish like those in Sussex?

So the council say to the existing HC trade that they need many more taxis.

The trade say f*** off, we have more than enough.

The council then tell the trade that those plates will go to the lads who already have them.

The trade say what a great idea, where do we sign.

And this is bought up by the bus-men as a good thing.

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IDFIMH

Because of the increased revenue they would bring.



The trade say, hold an independant survey to determine demand.



Or did they say they would go to the drivers who are at the top of the waiting list, not surprisingly these will be the people who have been in the trade the longest.



Who asks where to sign Sussex ? cause your statement is unclear as to you you are berating.



There it is again, anti T&G bias.

May I suggest that when you post such drivvel you use a separate Username Sussex as by using your current one your views and opinions are considered to be that of the site. At least, thats what you accused us of being when we posted such extreme views as yours within our sites.

B. Lucky

Well who exactly are we?

As for the rest, well shock horror SM isn't the T&G's biggest fan.

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IDFIMH

I'm berating firstly those representative who changed their views on having extra taxis, once they realized that they would be going to themselves.

And secondly those national unions who think such activities are just fine and dandy, and put them forward as being 'best practice'.

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IDFIMH