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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:08 pm 
Sussex old boy, the survey was done by a bunch of office workers with no insight to the taxi trade. Pay peanuts and monkeys will be employed. Oh not so happy days hey?? :D :D :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:34 pm 
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Yep the £250k wasted by the oft was much more umpressive than that

but as with anything, is the glass half empty or half full?

Interesting figures are coming out, that are not worth a toss when given to these idiots.

39% of councils dont issue licenses, yet 61% do, of the 61% there is an 11% that carry out regular surveys.

the findings naturally tell us 89% of councils do it wrong and the 11% that do check unmet demand are leading lights and their example should be followed.

Of course it fails to point out that the 11% constitutes the highest plate values in the country, in areas without an unmet demand? or is it a dodgy survey system? I leave it to you to decide

It also says that best practice is to carry out regular surveys, I wonder why, they dont do surveys themselves do they??

Statistics suggest, is a phrase they use, wouldnt be because they actually do show that taxis are more common in unlimited areas would it.

Then they draw a conclusion from the thin air, although the reality is that in areas that limit taxis the service is better due to intensely used vehicles, I presume they mean double shifting. But draw a conclusion from no evidence.

They obviously went the the same school as the oft.

I am quite sure that these survey/statistic companies could at some point demonstrate that the extermination of innocents proves unmet demand, if they were being paid for it.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:07 pm 
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Yep the £250k wasted by the oft was much more umpressive than that

but as with anything, is the glass half empty or half full?

Interesting figures are coming out, that are not worth a toss when given to these idiots.

39% of councils dont issue licenses, yet 61% do, of the 61% there is an 11% that carry out regular surveys.

the findings naturally tell us 89% of councils do it wrong and the 11% that do check unmet demand are leading lights and their example should be followed.

Of course it fails to point out that the 11% constitutes the highest plate values in the country, in areas without an unmet demand? or is it a dodgy survey system? I leave it to you to decide

It also says that best practice is to carry out regular surveys, I wonder why, they dont do surveys themselves do they??

Statistics suggest, is a phrase they use, wouldnt be because they actually do show that taxis are more common in unlimited areas would it.

Then they draw a conclusion from the thin air, although the reality is that in areas that limit taxis the service is better due to intensely used vehicles, I presume they mean double shifting. But draw a conclusion from no evidence.

They obviously went the the same school as the oft.

I am quite sure that these survey/statistic companies could at some point demonstrate that the extermination of innocents proves unmet demand, if they were being paid for it.



The survey market is a racket and always has been.

Quite simply the report fits what the council officers want, and as a bonus you get an expert witness to bamboosle a judge.

one thing the oft did get halcrow to admit is that suds are a load of codswallop.

I could show you 2 surveys one by me to proove unmet demand, one by Halcrow to do the opposite, mine was a license application and was given to halcrow as thier survey was to proove me wrong.

both use the same language throughout, the unmet demand was not aggreed to by halcrow but warnings were wriiten large.

and I got my plates.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:00 am 
guest,

you absolutely right, the surveys are a waste of time, money and effort.

I agree with virtually everything you have to say except for one thing.

The plates in my view can never be yours, their permits, nothing more nothing less, you can use them so long as your suitable to be licensed, but perhaps too many people in the hackney trade think that plates are theirs. This is where the problem evolved from.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:28 am 
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guest,

you absolutely right, the surveys are a waste of time, money and effort.

I agree with virtually everything you have to say except for one thing.

The plates in my view can never be yours, their permits, nothing more nothing less, you can use them so long as your suitable to be licensed, but perhaps too many people in the hackney trade think that plates are theirs. This is where the problem evolved from.


you are right except for a couple of points, according to my licensing officer (I say mine as I pay part of her wages) there is no such phrase as fit and proper person to own hackneys anybody but anybody can own a hackney merely only the select can drive them

seccond point my name is on the license.

here enderth the first lesson.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:02 am 
GET A LIFE . . . . INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RULE OTHERS THAT YOU PERCEIVE TO BE HELPING
ID LOVE TO SEE YOU FALL FLAT ON YOUR BACKSIDE ONE DAY.
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WILL REMIND YOU OF IT SOON ENOUGH ! ! !


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:51 pm 
Why do people wait at Taxi ranks?

The answer is because most of them, if not all, have been unable to pre-book a vehicle. This demonstrates the fact that the Private Hire Trade, which is not subject to quantity control, cannot cater for this unmet demand. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:03 pm 
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Why do people wait at Taxi ranks?

The answer is because most of them, if not all, have been unable to pre-book a vehicle. This demonstrates the fact that the Private Hire Trade, which is not subject to quantity control, cannot cater for this unmet demand. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



can you give us the evidence that brings you to this conclusion?

many people particularly visitors to an area will choose a taxi as its assumed that they will know best and have some gaurantee of getting there.

sometimes of course they can be wrong.


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Nidge wrote:
Why do people wait at Taxi ranks?


Wrong !!!!

People wait at taxi ranks because the isn't a taxi to take them home.

As the old fellow said, the reason PH were licensed in the first place, was to check that both vehicle and drivers were fit and proper for the job.

Not to help meet HC demand.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:56 pm 
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Nidge wrote:
Why do people wait at Taxi ranks?


Wrong !!!!

People wait at taxi ranks because the isn't a taxi to take them home.

As the old fellow said, the reason PH were licensed in the first place, was to check that both vehicle and drivers were fit and proper for the job.

Not to help meet HC demand.


well ok I conceade the point simple though it is, though you wont be thanked for it.

all the limit by number boys particularly in this patch think they were brought out to help them, like fags in tom brown schooldays

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:58 pm 
Sussex Man wrote:
Nidge wrote:
Why do people wait at Taxi ranks?


Wrong !!!!

People wait at taxi ranks because the isn't a taxi to take them home.

As the old fellow said, the reason PH were licensed in the first place, was to check that both vehicle and drivers were fit and proper for the job.

Not to help meet HC demand.


The question is though Sussex is why do these people wait at the ranks? Simple the PH can't cope.


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The question is though Sussex is why do these people wait at the ranks? Simple the PH can't cope.


No, it's when people wait by the phone, that PH can't cope.

If however you feel that you need PH to meet the current HC demand, then what is the big problem with de-limitation?

Cos then they will meet it legally. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:03 am 
Anonymous wrote:
GET A LIFE . . . . INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RULE OTHERS THAT YOU PERCEIVE TO BE HELPING
ID LOVE TO SEE YOU FALL FLAT ON YOUR BACKSIDE ONE DAY.
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WILL REMIND YOU OF IT SOON ENOUGH ! ! !



Let me give you a few words of comfort, you are not alone in your wishes indeed one chap is working night and day to achieve your desires.

It will also no doubt be of great comfort to you to learn "I fall on my arse regularly" but get up brush myself down and start all over again.

There was never a year worse than last where just about every government agency came down on me,ACTING ON TIPP OFFS FROM VICIOUS SOURCES we survived and I am here to tell the tale indeed have at each stage on this webb.

nowthen such wishes of yours fortels a losers mentality, buisness wise I wish all our trade the best, and yes will forever help those in difficulties, its my personality.

just one thing always be carefull of the law, the problem being just the fact its written does not give you automatic rights, you sometimes have to persuade a judge and when you win it can be hollow in that you lose finance and time wise.

isnt it you that needs to get a life? :wink:


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