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One thing that did come to light is that three councillors each own a licensed hackney carriage vehicle and five have driver licenses of some sort?


I understand that these three councillors have held hackney carriage proprietor licenses for a considerable number of years but I am not in a position to know at this moment in time how long they have been councillors? However anyone in their right mind can instantly see they have a conflict of interest when it comes to removing 85 grand from their personal portfolio?

I think such information would only add to the weight of the case of Mr Rickshaw when he eventually goes to court?

By the way Mr 187 ums why didn't you advise everyone on TDO that this review came about because of the rickshaw application instead of dressing it up as an intervention from TDO?

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I bet these 3 councilor had a vote as well, seems like a case for the ombudsman


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What kind of fool would pay that kind of money?
Someone making far more than minimum wage, thats for sure.
Alan Woodward wrote:
"At the moment there are lots of drivers earning less than the minimum wage, as it does not apply to self-employed people. Lots of blokes are working 10 or 12-hour shifts, earning £40, because business isn't there."

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as far as i know no councilor with a vested interest was on that comittee,


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as far as i know no councilor with a vested interest was on that comittee,

I would hope that's the case. But what about the bikes? :?

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far as i know bob maxwells kids are not going to be getting thier hackney licenses, however thier is another meeting planned in april


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So once again another council simply ignores the dft and oft advice and refuses to lift the numbers restrictions


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At least two labour councillors own hackney cabs and in 2006 Mr Khan ran a Black Eurocab and Mr Abbasi ran an M Reg Fairway. I don't know how much they paid for their plate if indeed they bought it but you can guarantee if they did buy it they paid it in the region of 80 grand. Presuming they bought their plates I suppose them being upright citizens declared the fact they paid in the region of 80 grand, on the other hand maybe not?

I don't know what these gentleman put down as business interests or job description but I have a feeling we will soon find out. Perhaps the upstanding Mr 187 ums can tell us if these councillors actually drive the cabs themseleves or if they track them out. Maybe Mr Woodward can tell us? I'm sure somebody will.

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/counci ... etail/156/


http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/meetin ... /detail/19

Councillors have to comply with what is called the register of interests some councils websites actually provide that information but not Oxford. However it is easily obtained and no doubt it might make interesting reading to see if these two councillors have declared their 80 Grand as a financial interest?

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/register-interests.cfm

The Agenda and reports etc of wednesdays meeting and a few extras.

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/meetin ... ent/20164/

This councillor is also a Taxi driver. SABIR HUSSAIN MIRZA. There is a Sabir Hussain registered as owning a V reg TX1 so I would has at a guess and say that these could well be one and the same?

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/counci ... etail/123/

This councillor is also a cab driver and funny enough there is a Mr Abdul Malik registered in 2006 as owning a black V reg fairway. The coincidence seems uncanny so perhaps there is some connection between the two?

http://www.oxfordmail.net/mostpopular.v ... _chaos.php

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/council/counci ... etail/141/

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It appears to me that Oxford council is full of cab drivers.

Mr Woodward of the local taxi association said "there are lots of Oxford cab drivers earning less than the minimum wage". Yet surprisingly we have councillor cabbies who seem to have no problem in scooting off to Pakistan for a few weeks every year or so. I don't know anyone earning less than the minimum wage who can boast about Holidays to places as far afield as pakistan and amounting to several weeks?

Perhaps Mr Woodward has his own version of the miniumum wage?

It would also appear that Mr Woodward walks around with his eyes and ears closed? Why do I say that because he told Oxford Councillors that in all his years of driving a cab in Oxford the highest price he had heard a plate change hands for was in the region of 38 grand. When I see councillors being hoodwinked by bullchitters of the calibre of Mr Woodward it makes me wonder why I didn't submit some facts of my own?

I suppose it is not beyond the bounds of reason to think that there is every possibility that these taxi driving Oxford councillors might have had some sympathy from their fellow councillors on this committee? However the next time they meet, I'll make sure they have some real facts to digest.

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In 1998 Allan Woodward was only too pleased to keep fares down so perhaps if Oxford cab drivers really are earning less than the minimum wage then it is down to him and his organisation.

He said in 1998.

Alan Woodward, Secretary of the City of Oxford Licensed Taxi-cab Association, said: "This is good news, mainly for the passengers, because now fares can be held down and so can travelling times.

"Fares would have risen by 68 per cent and journey times by 138 per cent


So Mr Woodward, I don't think anyone with a brain in their head believes any of your nonsense regarding 38 grand plate values and cab drivers in Oxford earning less than the minimum wage.

If you or any of your councillor cabby colleagues have a computer Mr Woodward then I'm sure there are quite a few people on here who would dearly love to debate your reasoning. In the meantime i'm going to write to all those councillor cab owners asking them their opinion as to the scarcity value of their license, just to see their response?

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I suppose it is not beyond the bounds of reason to think that there is every possibility that these taxi driving Oxford councillors might have had some sympathy from their fellow councillors on this committee? However the next time they meet, I'll make sure they have some real facts to digest.

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Facts as you see them ............. delivered anonymously.

Yep ............. that'll carry a lot of weight.

Then you'll come on here and accuse these people, without providing evidence, of all sorts of activities ......................... not bad for someone who doesn't get involved in other areas, just comments on the activities.

"Hello my name is John Davies (made up name) from Taxi Driver Online, can I offer you some advice" ................................ no wonder it just goes in one ear and out the other.

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Perhaps the upstanding Mr 187 ums can tell us if these councillors actually drive the cabs themseleves or if they track them out

as far as i know mr abbasi drives and rents it out at night, their are loads of mr khans, just as thier are loads of jd

dont you go on holiday? i bet you have a villa in spain or something

mr sabir hussain mirza sold his plate for ........ sorry its classified

as for Mr Woodward, well the less said the better


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as far as i know mr abbasi drives and rents it out at night, their are loads of mr khans, just as thier are loads of jd

dont you go on holiday? i bet you have a villa in spain or something

mr sabir hussain mirza sold his plate for ........ sorry its classified

as for Mr Woodward, well the less said the better


Thanks for that Mr 187.

So the councillor got rid of his interest in plate 84. Do you think it could be down to a bit of "insider dealing" so to speak? lol Maybe he thought there was a strong headwind coming from councillors for removing numbers last year? I see you guys are getting a fare increase I suppose it's more than welcome considering that many of you are earning less than the minimum wage.

Perhaps wages might go up if Oxford removed number control? lol What do you think?

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as far as i know mr abbasi drives and rents it out at night, their are loads of mr khans, just as thier are loads of jd, dont you go on holiday? I bet you have a villa in spain or something .mr sabir hussain mirza sold his plate for ........ sorry its classified


Did any of these councillors get a free plate by the way? That would make an interesting headline? lol

We can assume the good councillor got at least 80 grand for his plate, therefore wouldn't you have thought in the interest of accuracy he would have informed this investigating committee exactly what the going rate is for the scarcity value of the license plate? Perhaps he was aware that the council were thinking of trying to bring in a policy of non transferable plates and he got wind of it before anyone else?

I don't think he would have been very pleased at that, do you?

All this Oxford palava has perked up my interest in the shananigans going on down there. It would seem there are more councillor hackney cab owners than probablly any other council in the UK. Knowing the abysmal track record of many many councillors I would guess that there is probably an element of fortuitism (for the want of a better word) in all this, just like our good friend the ex Lord Mayor of Sefton who found it fortuitous to screw the taxpayer in his own corrupt way.

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Do you think it could be down to a bit of "insider dealing" so to speak? lol Maybe he thought there was a strong headwind coming from councillors for removing numbers last year?


i think you may be right.....however pandering to the "wanna plate" brigade would be a bad idea, evidence suggests that this course of action is not the best idea


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Do you think it could be down to a bit of "insider dealing" so to speak? lol Maybe he thought there was a strong headwind coming from councillors for removing numbers last year?


i think you may be right.....however pandering to the "wanna plate" brigade would be a bad idea, evidence suggests that this course of action is not the best idea


Yes, pandering to the "gorraplate" brigade is self-evidently preferable. [-(

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