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You may be correct in the first paragraph John, but of course this assumes that people are thinking rationally and have good information, which is often not the case.

As regards your latter point, this was addressed in the last post, but you could as well use the same argument as regards any plate purchase anywhere. But I think the perception in Gateshead will be that a saloon plate is a safer investment than in areas where all taxis are currently restricted in number.

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I think that if you accept that even in restricted areas where some are allowed to run saloons and others WAVs (such as Newcastle, Leeds and Brighton) there are differences in plate values then there's no reason why the same principle shouldn't apply to areas where only one category is restricted.

Thus WAV plates are free in Gateshead, but why shouldn't a differential be present, as in the above locations.

The only difference is that in Gateshead it's 0+x for the saloon plates, whereas in Leeds it's x+y, x representing the financial advantage in running a saloon, and y representing the value of a WAV plate where they are still restricted.

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But I think the bottom line is that where drivers have a choice to run saloons (such as in many LAs or everywhere as regards PH) then they almost always opt for them.

Thus running a saloon is cleary considered the preffered option, and there's no reason why this shouldn't attract some sort of financial premium.

Of course, this may not be the rational choice, but clearly we are not always rational beings

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Ask the old people who can't get into a WAV. we get them all the time, we even get people in wheelchairs who get out of them and get into a saloon car Makes you laugh but when you hear the horror stories they tell you it's no wonder.

lol nidge I knew there was something holy about you

we get them too, its like a scene from Little Britain


Captain Cab

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Nige is a bloody hypocrite, if he sees a saloon taxi he tells his mates hes seen a private hire car, [edited by admin]

now john has dusty and mick nagging at him, for gods sake give the bloke a rest!

we need saloons for disabled people god one barmy argument to another

you are all mad!

Can I refer you to a post I made some time ago concerning the WAV Gateshead operation we set up to make WAVs more available, at the request of the disabled community and representative groups.
One major account we had was with Gateshead Access Panel, the very first job we had was from these people and they insisted on a saloon. Remember not all disabled people are in wheelchairs or have disabilities which are immediatly visable.

Its not just us thats mad.

The question wasn't about the viability of buying a saloon and plate over that of a WAV, it was intended to show that even in areas where plates are derestricted a premium is still saught for the saloon plate and acknowledgement that derestriction with "quality controls" would have little or no effect on current plate premiums, although the argument of reduced takings would still remain questionable.

All of the examples listed, and JD's refusal to accept that what I was posting was true is why I have continued this argument, what others contribute within the thread is not within my control.

I have much more respect for JD than he has for me, I intended only to point out what others would have identified as questionable or misleading from his list if published, surely such points are better discussed on here instead of in front of the whole trade or before a council.

B. Lucky

Mick
I do remember but its a crazy notion, its unbelievable and a concept the council wont buy

give it up now, weve been through this many times and the site is repeating itself.

the rulers have decided leave it at that.

Geoff exactly what part is a crazy notion.

B. Lucky

the whole argument as started by Nige is crazy as its based on a lie, and a whopping lie at that.

the other lie is the one where disabled dont use cabs, Nige runs that one as well

so you get disabled dont use taxis, salloons are better

load of [edited by admin].

Yorkie,

the impression we are getting from the Government is that there is no single ideal vehicle to cover all disabilities.

Regards

Captain cab

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I have found this statement to be true, however berks on here claim there is, the salloon.

I think we'll all find that the only way to get some type of regulated entry into the HC trade will be via the route of WAV's and driver standards


Captain cab

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unfortunatly do to the amuaters messing about with unwinable arguments that is so, its the bain of our trade.

Clearly if a person is comfined to a chair then only a WAV will do.

On the other hand, they may prefer not to be in a chair, and moreover may prefer to be in a saloon rather than a WAV.

Same with the partially-disabled.

I don't think anyone disputes the above, the question is how the vehicles are provided, but what I don't like is some being allowed to run saloons, while others are confined to WAVs.

It's just another kind of quota, and inequality to supposedly end discrimination

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