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Well I bet it's either illegal, unenforceable, wrong in principle or simply won't work.

So perhaps you could disclose the intended methodology now so that the scheme's shortcomings don't have to be pointed out later?

Or perhaps it's a case of once the horse has bolted then it's too late to lock the stable door, which would no doubt suit current Gateshead plate holders?

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I see you've been to the Tony Blair school for agreeing with a question before answering questions by asking a completely different one.

This is complete total and utter spin of the highest "new labour" quality.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Youve two hours to get yourself banned

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My principle argument has always been for a fully managed service.

I believe that the number of vehicles should be right and that the standards those vehicles must attain should be as high as is possible.

In Gateshead I believe that there are to many HC and the standards they must operate under are to low.


Your biggest argument is against HC plateholders who have no other connection or involvement in the trade, those who buy HC plates as a appriciating asset.

For the millionth time, 90% of the plateholders in Gateshead drive their own vehicles.

The plateholders who rent out HC vehicles are generally PH operators and account for 6% of the remaining 10%.
What that means in simple terms is that the amount of plateholders which match your target in Gateshead only account for 4% of the total number.

Since 1999 we have seen an increase in HC numbers of over 300% with the number of new PH licenses increasing by approx 15%.

These increases are completely against your perseptions of activity following deregulation, where you insist that PH licence numbers would drop if a HC licence was available to them.

My point here is simple, what you believe needs to happen in your area is not what needs to happen anywhere else.

Changes should be made to improve the quality of service the trade offers, those changes need to be properly enforced and the only way this can be achieved is is the service is properly and totally managed through control of every aspect.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

No-one placed a bet with me CC.

I'll have to change my signature now

At least I'm willing to accept the fact I haven't been banned although I'm sure there are some that didn't want me back on here and probably called for me to be banned as soon as I made my first post.

Sussex wouldn't have ................. cause he likes to debate issues with me

Dusty wouldn't have .................. cause he knows me well and knows I can take the kind of punches he likes to throw.

Alex wouldn't have ............... cause I think he (or she) just looks after the technical side.

On the other hand there is the great pretender, the one and only JD. Mr do as I say not as I do, Mr know-it-all the man who makes demands of everyone but accepts no demands of himself ........................... he's the man who tries to pull strings, he's the man with the hard on .............. he's the man who would, I think, have made the call to "ban the tosspot from Gateshead" but as I'm still here that's maybe unfair.

I'll still only take things a post at a time for now ................... but I'm no longer taking bets on timescale.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

If you're going to change your signature change it to Rockerfeller, it will impress the hell out of your bank manager.




Well, I have called for you and MrT to be banned, because your both destructive influences

Although perhaps theres no significant unmet banning of this site, either that or their working to banning quotas



you must have a differing definition of debate to me, unless you enjoy talking to brick walls?



I think you're being a little harsh

But I dont agree with everyone all of the time anyway

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I think thats harsh

Its not at all nice to mock the afflicted.

B. Lucky

WE LOVE SUSSEX WE LOVE SUSSEX WE LOVE SUSSEX WE LOVE SUSSEX

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

GA have you ever noticed that the cap carries a pair of tweezers.. He needs them you know

bushy eyebrows?



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hope you wash them regularly

On the contrary, I think it's you that's spinning - if you read my reply to Andrew Clark's question in its entirety then I think it does make a substantive case, so why not question the substance in detail rather than try to misrepresent it as pure spin?

The question I answered wasn't a 'completely different one' it was merely addressing the restricted numbers/quality nexus from a different perspective, the answer being much the same either way.

The fundamental point is that restricted taxi numbers have little if any direct relationship with quality, which must be regulated directly. That's the fundamental answer to Andy's question, whichever perspective it's answered from.

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Same here, and my general argument is for stiffer QC and enforcement.





Well if the LA specifies a high vehicle standard then that'll reduce the number of vehicles and thus in effect pay for itself?

And while I agree with a fully managed service, you have to draw the line somewhere, whether as a point of principle or practicality, and as regards the former I'll never regard quotas as desirable, any more than that only those with surnames from A-M should be able to run taxis, or that only GA should be able to run taxis in Gateshead.



Well up the standard and you'll have fewer HCs.




There's no need to repeat it for the millionth time, because I heard you the first nine hundred and ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine times.

Yes, the injustices are more obvious in the case of someone who doesn't drive, but inequality is only slightly less palatable if it's diluted - that doesn't make it disappear.

Why should those who currently got a HC plate when they wanted one deny that choice to others?



Yes, but PH would have increased significantly during that time if HC hadn't increased, so the numbers don't really tell us much.




Given static demand, yes I believe that would happen, but since demand is rising, once the effect of the PH to HC effect has occured then the rising demand in the market then kicks in and both sides will experience growth. In another recent thread don't Govt figures indicate that overall demand in the market has increased 45% in ONE YEAR?

Your point is about as useful as claiming tha growth in the mobile phone market means that the number of operators should reduce - you're not claiming that surely?




Different areas have evolved in different fashions, but then that's to a huge extent due to differing regulation, not market fundamentals, which are largely similar everywhere, surely?




Well it works in London without what you posit, so why can't it work elsewhere?

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I think that eventually quality controls will be sufficiant to ensure professional service.

However there needs to be a starting point and then a period of trade consultation and then finally a period of implimentation.

It Gateshead it has been accepted that the starting point is to temporarily suspend the issuance of licenses.

The council will then enter into a period of consultation with the trade, its own Licensing Department and I believe the Regulatory Committee.

When the new conditions are believed to be in the publics better interest they will be implimented, these are widely expected to be far reaching.

Appart from that "timetable" NO-ONE truly knows what recomendations the advisory group will make to cabinet OR what reccomendations Cabinet will make to Council.

But it will be fun finding out.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Some interesting stuff, but just my own posts and other's to the extent that they're quoted in my own messages.

The forum used the Yabb software, which was a bit more user friendly for someone who wanted to retain a record of their posts - when you called up a poster's history the software would put every message in it's entirety on a single web page, so this was easy to store. (The software on this forum calls up the history on pages with a specific number of posts and this doesn't show the whole post either, so it's impossible to do the same on here).

Pity I only stored my own posts though

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But we still have our memories.

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