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As the accuser I'm asking you to prove that what you wrote about this person is factually correct.

What or who a person represents is of no consequence if they are offering an opinion ............... if they are offering their opinion as fact then thats a different story, as is if they are offering someone else's opinion.

A lot of times I'm contacted by organisations who have my name on a database from a different organisation, this particular instance seems to be exactly what I have experienced myself.

I have no need therefore to ask him anything ..................... I assume that he is the victim of outdated data and doesn't deserve to be berated because someone else made a mistake.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Well, what are you ill at ease with? Is it the fact that he said it, or where he said it?

I assume you do agree he said it? So the only problem you have, is where he said it?

Would that be correct?

JD

Of course I accept that Mr Jones has flaws ......... just as I have flaws and its fair to say that everyone else is by no means perfect, the thing that is refreshing is the fact that Mr Jones accepts the fact that no-one is perfect and has never offered answers to peoples problems just his own opinion of a given situation, in many cases based on past experiences. On the other hand other people dictate their views as being the truth, and anyone who contradicts their opinion is berated as a liar.

AG. are you suggesting that I am only a mere mortal, and I am capable of making a mistake, and maybe even learning from it, now that would never do would it,
In case you hadn't realised this is one of JD's elaborate traps, the hours he must have spent going back through Liverpool newspapers and Sefton's licensing committee meetings just to put together a case to prove that I am a liar, you've got to admit it you have to be a pretty sick individual to go to that trouble. he even went as far as to invite us back, I am only playing with him at the moment and when I am ready it will finish ,

GA. Do you think I should maybe give the plonker a clue as to who I represent, now let's see what do we know about me, I am a fleet owner, could it possibly be I represent the fleets and their drivers. clue Two the name of the Association I am in is the North West Taxi Association

No what I'm questioning is the label the alledged statement was given by the reporter, ie the reporter reported that a statement was made by a person representing a group.

If that person used to represent a certain group, and the reporter has an outdated database of who people represent then the wrong information is printed.

I still get letters with the TGWU within my address ................... and I've had no involvement with them for 2 years.

If you accept, as I do, that its possible you cannot blame the individual concerned.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

So you're quite happy to see an individual approach Gateshead council and say they represent an organisation that doesn't exist and they want to be recognised by the council as a bone fide body and consulted on all matters appertaining to Taxi licensing based on the councils current policy of trade consultation?

That's allright with you is it? Or is it because Mr Jones is a friend of yours that you turn a blind eye to his unscrupulous behavior in Sefton?

You better look closely at your principals my friend because this website has a habit of making you look rather foolish.

There is a legal procedure for setting up an association is there not? There is also a legal procedure for dissolution? Well maybe not for Mr Jones.

JD

JD,You seem to be under the impression that the North West Taxi Association has been finished, please explain how you came to that conclusion.....

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July 31st 2005

whatever happened to the N.W.T.A. streetcar this is me

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You know, the association that * collected your £20 saying that the
money was to fight the OFT and deregulation; the one that promised to seek legal advice as to the implications of a cab and plate being seized and sold by the courts in Liverpool; the one that promised that by paying £20 it would go into the areas that needed help?

We collected many thousands of pounds, I should, of course, know, I was one of the original committee. I left the committee when the battle with the OFT was over, since then I have tried my very best to ensure that the promises made were kept, but this has been difficult if not impossible because the "NWTA is now the NTTG" an alleged national group.
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It was you who said the NWTA was now the NTTG, if you hadn't I wouldn't be questioning your use of the organisations name. You stated on more than one occasion that it had become the NTTG. If it hasn't then perhaps you can clarify in what form it now exists and how it came to be in that form?

Last week I was told of a reference to the NWTA in respect of the North West Taxi show on Tuesday so I assume the organisation is not entirely defunct but perhaps structured differently. My position is reconcilling your statements that the NWTA no longer exists because it became the NTTG. Either it did become the NTTG or it didn't?

JD

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Your statement was based on the reporter stating Mr Jones represented a group that to your knowledge had disbanded.

I countered that statement by pointing out that the database the reporter gained the information from could be out of date.

The facts about what Mr Jones had said were not questioned by yourself ONLY the status of the group he was credited to represent.

Consultation only works when people are invited to voice their opinion on the subject concerned, if that person is an individual or a representative of a group the opinion given is equally valid.

In our forthcoming consultation process opinions will be invited from all interested parties, and rightly so.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

You know, the association that * collected your £20 saying that the
money was to fight the OFT and deregulation; the one that promised to seek legal advice as to the implications of a cab and plate being seized and sold by the courts in Liverpool; the one that promised that by paying £20 it would go into the areas that needed help?

We collected many thousands of pounds, I should, of course, know, I was one of the original committee. I left the committee when the battle with the OFT was over, since then I have tried my very best to ensure that the promises made were kept, but this has been difficult if not impossible because the "NWTA is now the NTTG" an alleged national group.

You must forgive me if I seem a little bit stupid, but exactly where does it say the North West Taxi Association?????

I think .......... mind I might be speaking out of turn here ............. there has been an asumption that the initials NWTA actually stand for the North West Taxi Association.

I say asumption because there is always a possibility that the North West Taxi Association is not known as the NWTA .................... or that previously the NTWA could have stood for another completely seperate organisation.


Sorry if I have added to the confusion, but I thought the point needed to be made.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Well perhaps you can inform us which other organisation with the initials NWTA became the NTTG? I honestly didn't think you were stupid enough to make a statement like that? lol

I hate to think what people will be thinking about your intellect Trevor?

"but this has been difficult if not impossible because the "NWTA is now the NTTG" an alleged national group".

Stop digging a hole Trevor, your getting deeper into the mire.

JD

Maybe he's digging a hole for you to fall into JD ................ mind your step.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

And I honestly expected you to make this stupid statement, the difference between you and I is that I do know the name of that particular association, and when it was formed.