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My council Easington district council, capped hc plates back in 1986ish to 83 hack plates. Why nearly 20 years later and numerous housing devolpments and a newer and larger shopping centre, Can they justify this crazy amount of hc's. when our large supermarket is run by on average 30 phv's.

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magic on the pitch (hhmm)

I think you will find that most of the councils that have around your number of taxis will de-limit in the next six months.

The costs of regular surveys, and the work involved by LOs, will lead them to getting rid of quotas.

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IDFIMH

why dont you apply for a license up north cabbie?

if they wont issue, take them to court

they must justify their restrictive policy

regards

Captain cab

i will try today,i will let you know

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magic on the pitch (hhmm)

So what you want to do is go HC when a PH operator has an agreement with the local "big" supermarket which itself can sustain 30 PHV's ....... seems strange when they are unlikely to provide a rank you could use.

I therefore can't understand why you would wish to go HC, when all the growth in potential customer base seems to be possibly more available to PH.

83 HC doesn't sound like a awful lot, how many cars does your local biggest PH operator have working for him and how many PH does Easington Council actually licence. Also relative is the cost of a HC plate and how often are they sold, at the end of the day if the HC equate to 25% of the total number of licensed vehicles and they are rarely up for sale you have to ask why, its the first question I ask anyone selling something whether it be a house or a used car "why is this no longer good enough for you and why would it be good enough for me".

Also worth considering is the implications of the DDA implimentation, does Easington Council have an age policy....... is it likely to introduce one ..... if it does would I be able to afford to buy a vehicle that met their specifications.

Sussex and his clan paint a very rosey picture of life after delimitation, all this freedom, all this extra money, fulfilling the unmet demand but if everyone did it (or even just the majority) the only extra thing delimitation will deliver is an extra payment for a WAV. My council licensed 95 HC before delimitation, of which 15 or so worked offices. It licensed just over 400 PH. Currently we have just under 300 HC and amazingly just under 500 PH, of the 300 HC around 150 work through PH offices,a figure thats increasing on a weekly basis. At least 50% of the HC drivers working through offices are exPH.

we currently have 83 hc's 123phv's largest company 53 cars mainly hc doinly mainly ph work . largest ph firm 26 cars used to be hack until sold them all to become phv . average plate £3000/£4000 . age limit 5 year with 6th extension if perfect. minium 14'6'' length hc's white phv;s any other.

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magic on the pitch (hhmm)

You see what I mean then, your council has a 5 year age policy, meaning a brand new WAV were your council to deregulate. Therefore the cost of becoming a HC would be in excess of £20k, with further investment of similar ammounts every 5 years.

The current HC plate values are low, less than 10% of what Sussex clan quote, which generally means not much more will be gained through having the HC plate over having a PH plate.

If Easington were to delimit it would be fair to say they would insist on WAVs, becuase of other restrictions take up would be low for new plates, as there just doesn't seem to be the HC work, far better drive a better car, a car of your choice, in the obviously more profitable market of PH. The £4000 for a plate would be worth spending if you could make a decent living as an independant HC driver as it would save you on office fees, but the office fees you pay would have to be substancial if you were to save on the extra cost of a WAV. More and more councils are adopting similar age restrictions, therefore the trade in value for a 5 year old WAV will be little more than scrap.

Of course you could just jump into the HC trade with both feet, as the council and Sussx would have you do, on the understanding that its better for them for more councils to adopt the same policies, however maybe by thinking about it you may see that what some people are trying to tell you is delimitation doesn't work well for every driver in every area.

Now that would be nice.

I would love to know how your council would refuse you, especially as you are such a good looking chap.

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IDFIMH

Err, isn't that bit supposed to be in your Gateshead Angel profile?

Because he wants the option to work the streets as well. It's called having the same opportunities as others.

I don't think it's that un-reasonable.

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IDFIMH

Sussex also says that drivers are the best folk to decide what drivers do.

Why do they need the like of the T&G to tell them what's best for themselves? If buying a WAV makes no sense, then only those without sense will buy them.

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IDFIMH

yep and he plays for man u
hehe

captain cab

Whos that like?

Is that why you want one then Sussex.
Maybe in your area where, HC plates have a premium of £50K, going into the HC sector would be a prudent move and worthy of the extra investment. However the matter under discussion is an area where the plates are valued at £3500. Maybe you should take time to consider why plates demand premiums, and why one areas plate premiums differ so greatly from another.

Consideration should be given to ensure that the advice offered by groups like this benefits the driver in his own area, instead of benefitting some members of this site allowing them a feather in their cap, as they are quite obviously incapable of convincing argument towards their own licensing department.

I want the choice, no-more no-less.

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IDFIMH