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16. Our witnesses from Liverpool and Manchester considered that the reduction in PHVs
was one of the strongest reasons for opposing deregulation. We were told that while taxis
served the city centres, private hire vehicles served residential areas, particularly in
deprived areas with low levels of car ownership.28 As Councillor Swannick of Manchester
said:
“the worry is that by moving directly to an unrestricted situation in Manchester we
would, in effect, deprive some of the areas which are dependent on private hire
vehicles – for the residents – by putting more cabs in the centre. That would benefit
the centre but it would not necessarily benefit residential areas.”29
Although the OFT suggested that derestriction could lead to more cabs plying for hire in
suburban areas, they conceded “it may not be sufficient”.30 The OFT’s surveys did not
consider the interrelationship between the taxi and PHV markets, particularly in cities.
No sensible policy can be made without proper information on this.


17. The OFT also failed to consider the relationship between taxi numbers and taxi
availability, resting its assertions that the supply increased on seemingly limited survey
data. Many of our witnesses drew our attention to the fact that vehicles in areas with
restrictions are frequently “double driven”, so that two drivers use them.31 This means that
taxis are available even at unsociable hours, whereas in derestricted areas drivers will
concentrate on peak hours and choose to work more sociable shifts. This argument was
not restricted to those representing the taxi trade: Mr Edwards of Liverpool City Council
told us:
“I have a fear that if you increase the number of hackney carriage drivers there will be
no surplus to double-shift vehicles, and that may impact on the availability of taxi
cabs at peak periods, despite having more vehicles.”32

31 Q 46, see also North Western Taxi Associations Response to the OFT Report; Jacobs Consultancy, Review of OFT
Conclusions regarding Quality Controls, North Western Taxi Association; York Hackney Carriage Association,
Response to the OFT Report on the Regulation of Taxi Quality Control


18. Since the OFT does not choose to address the issue of double-driving adequately there
is no way we can be certain that lifting restrictions will not reduce the availability of
taxis at off-peak hours, as vehicles are no longer shared by two drivers during a single
day.

Reduced choice
19. The OFT claims that “if there are few taxis available, consumer choice is restricted as to
the type of transport they can use. Consumers who otherwise would have taken a taxi may
have to opt for other, less preferred and less suitable, modes of transport.”33 It is true that a
shortage of vehicles for hire will restrict consumer choice, but since the report does not
address the significant reduction in the overall number of vehicles for hire in areas where
quantity controls were lifted, or deal adequately with the effects of derestriction on the
telephone market, it is impossible to assert that derestriction would increase consumer
choice.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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oh sorry, i thought you said SAUCE

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... /25104.htm

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Sorry, I did mean sauce; my mistake!!

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This is a response to a 2003 report. With today,s situation in Manchester it is hardly relevant.


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has there been a more recent one?

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has there been a more recent one?

No, but it was all a mess then, and can't see them repeating the mess.

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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
has there been a more recent one?

No, but it was all a mess then, and can't see them repeating the mess.


more like they will us the old report as a valid reference...

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