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 Post subject: Wav's
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:55 am 
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Hi Ladies/Gents
With respect to Councils and the amount of wav's there are suggest you obtain a copy Private Hire Monthly. The National Private Hire Association who have many licence Taxi Drivers among their membership have done the trade very good service in gathering this information.

The RMT Union had a meeting with the Taxi/PH Division of Dept For Transport In July one of the questions ask connected with the national scene was what was DFT's minimum requirement for Wav's in a regulated area it was 30% but subject to situation in the local area. Those are population, its make up i.e. age range, Type of area i.e A's B's C's and alike, not just the number of wheelchair persons. Question ask, would the a Council survey be required, answer no, details held by statutory authority. But the final say is held by the Minister.

Please also take into account the Goverment of the day has said that certain parts of the Equality Act is being reviewed.

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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DJV wrote:
Hi Ladies/Gents
With respect to Councils and the amount of wav's there are suggest you obtain a copy Private Hire Monthly. The National Private Hire Association who have many licence Taxi Drivers among their membership have done the trade very good service in gathering this information.

A more accurate account was on TDO months before the NPHA decided they needed to fill their magazine with a copy.

DJV wrote:
The RMT Union had a meeting with the Taxi/PH Division of Dept For Transport In July one of the questions ask connected with the national scene was what was DFT's minimum requirement for Wav's in a regulated area it was 30% but subject to situation in the local area.

Must have been a different civil servant who told the GMB, T&G, NTA, NPHA, and a few more I can't remember that they didn't know yet the exact percentage, but whatever it was it would apply equally throughout the country.
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Please also take into account the Goverment of the day has said that certain parts of the Equality Act is being reviewed.

The bits in relation to schools and employment law. It has been clarified many times that the review doesn't include us. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Sussex wrote:
DJV wrote:
The RMT Union had a meeting with the Taxi/PH Division of Dept For Transport In July one of the questions ask connected with the national scene was what was DFT's minimum requirement for Wav's in a regulated area it was 30% but subject to situation in the local area.

Must have been a different civil servant who told the GMB, T&G, NTA, NPHA, and a few more I can't remember that they didn't know yet the exact percentage, but whatever it was it would apply equally throughout the country.

Well it's dropped by 5% since the Coventry show in early June!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Well it's dropped by 5% since the Coventry show in early June!!!

It will be 50%.

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Sussex wrote:
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Well it's dropped by 5% since the Coventry show in early June!!!

It will be 50%.

I don't think it will be, but we'll have to wait & see.

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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I don't think it will be, but we'll have to wait & see.

The reason I see it as being that is that I don't think the trade will organise itself to fight, what some may say, is the good fight.

Out of the 400 odd councils in the country, it will effect, according to the accurate TDO list, just over 50 councils. Some of those 50 will only need a few extra WAVs to meet the 50%.

So in essence the actual effect, if it is 50%, on the nations taxi trade will be limited.

If however it is 35%, the the effect will be even less noticeable. Which begs the question why bother with the amendment in the first place.

Another reason why I think it will be 50% is the fact that at some time section 163 will have to be enacted, and that bugger is the 100% clause.

TBH if I had my way I would just go straight to 163 and stop pi**ing around with 161.

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TBH if I had my way I would just go straight to 163 and stop pi**ing around with 161.


Then watch the exodus to PH, therefor defeating the whole object


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Then watch the exodus to PH, therefor defeating the whole object

How many folks do you think are going to hand in their £50,000 plates? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
I don't think it will be, but we'll have to wait & see.

The reason I see it as being that is that I don't think the trade will organise itself to fight, what some may say, is the good fight.

Out of the 400 odd councils in the country, it will effect, according to the accurate TDO list, just over 50 councils. Some of those 50 will only need a few extra WAVs to meet the 50%.

So in essence the actual effect, if it is 50%, on the nations taxi trade will be limited.

If however it is 35%, the the effect will be even less noticeable. Which begs the question why bother with the amendment in the first place.

Another reason why I think it will be 50% is the fact that at some time section 163 will have to be enacted, and that bugger is the 100% clause.

TBH if I had my way I would just go straight to 163 and stop pi**ing around with 161.

What everyone seems to forget & you included is that the Act says that the proportions will be set by the Minister for Transport.

Now what does that mean, in it's absolute FULL context?

Now think about it, laterally, fully.

Think like a politician & you know politician are . . . . well . . . . untrustworthy to be polite.

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Who was saying we're all doomed?

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Who was saying we're all doomed?

CC

Mr Doom, I suppose.

But he's been off TDO for a while now!!

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
What everyone seems to forget & you included is that the Act says that the proportions will be set by the Minister for Transport.

The proportion in section 163 (100%) was set way back in 1995, and that hasn't been changed in the updated act.

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
What everyone seems to forget & you included is that the Act says that the proportions will be set by the Minister for Transport.

The proportion in section 163 (100%) was set way back in 1995, and that hasn't been changed in the updated act.

My point was that the Minister could set & re-set the proportions.

There's nothing stopping the Minister from starting at 30% & reviewing it at a later date, once, twice or more.

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 Post subject: Re: Wav's
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
There's nothing stopping the Minister from starting at 30% & reviewing it at a later date, once, twice or more.

Possibly the minister could.

But why are we where we are?

Because the national disabled lobby have the hump with many local councils for not having enough WAVs, and for parliament for not doing anything about it.

IMO tinkering at 30% for those restricted councils will not stop the national disabled lobby from carrying on their fight.

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Because the national disabled lobby have the hump



Shhhhhh!!...they'll be requiring specialist vehicles with the seatbacks cut out to accomodate them.. :roll:


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