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Please click on the link below.

www.brighton-taxi.org.uk/TandGSubmission.pdf

Oh, and of course please discuss.

the second paragragh is wrong. the biggest taxi union in the country is the LTDA not the T&G.

It has been mentioned before about the T&Gs democracy.

Well, as they are not meeting nationally until January, how do we know that the views in the response are the views of the members.

Or is it yet another case of the bus man's views, are the views of everyone?

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IDFIMH

Very pedictable response from Sussex, knee jerk reaction.

I believe the response is the best yet, they have wasted on opportunity at OFT, to have a radical report.

the report is a victory of content over fact, they have misunderstood the industry as T and G have stated.

as for managed groth that is a Tand G fudge to couch words into meaning all things to all men.

but for a union that dont know where they are going its an excellent and intelligent response, but if they are implemented as Tand G request nothing will change

and thats the problem

all these unions that have reponded to oft, have any of them issued guidence to taxi drivers not to buy any plates untill the ministers make their minds up?

No but surely that should be the job of the Local Authority who decide what happens within the trade in their area.
They should never have agreed to the sale of plates in the first place, ALL plates should be returned to the council after the licensee is finished with it, if that had been done in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I don't understand why non-union members seek to dictate the policies of the unions, at the end of the day (and this sounds incredibly worse than it should) the unions members needs come before those who choose not to join.

Non members try to dictate the policy of the unions purely because they have a place at the table representing the taxi trade remember that Mick the trade.

and they are fond of doing the opposite there is nothing wrong with licence transfer it happens in every industry, buses television, chemist,

and that my friend is why perhaps you are the wrong person to be the one at the table

Guest said

"I don't understand why non-union members seek to dictate the policies of the unions, at the end of the day (and this sounds incredibly worse than it should) the unions members needs come before those who choose not to join."

Why should somebody in a union come before someone who is not in a union?

Twice in my life I have been involved with unions, twice in my life I have been let down by the unions, in the later instance I fought and won the half a million pounds that the company had wriggled out of paying us.
We had to elect worker reps and we done a far better job than the union rep did, (well I did anyway) The thing that cheeses me off about these kind of situations is the fact that you are supposed to put your faith in some organisation or other without having any input purely because it is assumed by the vast majority that they know best and have everyones best intrests at heart this sadly is not always the case in my experience.
There are so many bodys representing so many intrests it's hard to see how anyone can reach a consensus on this issue.

I know several PH drivers in the local T&G.

Please tell we what in that report represents them? NOTHING !!!!!

Were they asked for their views beforehand? NO !!!!!

They have chosen to join, and their needs have come before the 95% of cab drivers that aren't in the T&G.

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IDFIMH

The private hire industry are regretfuly not part of the OFT report, thier inclusion is merely to confuse.

if they [edited by admin] off and kept thier snecks out it would be better for us all.

Sussex you are a joke.

Quite right, but the problem is, as you allude to, the interests of union or association members shouldn't be put before others in the trade, present or future - unions and associations often claim to represent the trade, but they don't, they represent the vested interests.

But that's what license quotas are all about - inequality and preferential treatment.

And that's why they must end.

I dont believe in quotas but Dusty I dont publish garbage like this!
truth is a victim.

Well I'm glad you find me funny.

However it was not Sussex Man that issued a press release, saying that the PH trade was going to be added to the OFT Study.

I can assure you that the last thing a few of the PH cartels around the country want, is to to be investigated by the OFT.

Look what happened in Bury, all for 10p.

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IDFIMH

When it comes to the support of the Union, as that was the loaded question which was asked. Are you perhaps suggesting that the Union should provide support without membership. Its the Unions membership that immediatly concerns the unions HOWEVER in the majority of cases changes in legislation, argued for by a the unions, have a beneficial effect on EVERYONE whether they be members or not.

This has been asked by many of the drivers in my local area, all I can say is that I publish a monthly newsletter detailing what action has been taken while following the branch memberships requests. These can be discussed at a bi-monthly meeting where new issues can be debated, voted upon then acted upon. If this doesn't happen in your area then I suggest that you join up and get things changed so that the Union works for the best interest of the majority of its members at branch level, which in turn relects what the Union does Nationally.

In short, if you feel as though no organisation is talking your language then start one yourselves, you can be sure that MANY others are thinking the same as you.

B. Lucky

No Dusty they represent their membership. If you state that their membership is made up of only who the representatives want then that in itself is a very serious allegation.

The Union never claim to represent the trade, what we say is that arguments and issues put forward by our membership, if adopted would have a beneficial effect on everyone else in the trade. Take your local shopping centre for an example, the union members want a rank there and so does the local P/H office. Now if the union members are granted a rank, would that rank ONLY be accesssible to the members of the union or would it be available to ALL licensed H/C, this would however not be the case if the local P/H office got in as they would want exclusivitity for the drivers who pay them for work, so in this case who are the real vested interests.

B. Lucky