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Author:  JD [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Swindon lift numbers
Last night 20/7/05 Swindon voted to remove quantity control in favour of quality control. This now leaves the number of Authorities that do not restrict numbers at 238, restricted authorities stand at 53 and those yet to decide now stands at 52.


Regards

JD
Author:  187ums [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:02 pm ]
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MP calls on council to delay decision on services


NORTH Swindon MP Michael Wills has written to the chief executive of Swindon Council calling for a delay in the delimiting of taxi services.


In the letter, he told Sir Mike Pitt that a number of his constituents, who are taxi-drivers, had approached him with concerns about the proposed move.


"They have told me that they have not felt adequately consulted and that when they have approached councillors about this they have been told that this measure has been imposed upon them by the Government," he said.


"I am concerned that, once again, elected members from the ruling group appear to be evading their own proper responsibilities by blaming anything they feel might be unpopular on the Government. In this case, any elected members who are seeking to do this are being less than honest with the people of Swindon."


He said that while the Government favoured competition and the removal of quantity restrictions, it had said that local authorities should be given the opportunity to assess their own needs.


"It is therefore clear that Swindon Council has discretion to retain the quantity restrictions should they believe it to be in the interests of Swindon residents," he said.


The Labour MP has already written to the council with his own concerns about deregulation.


"There is already surplus capacity at many times during the week as you can see from the long lines of cabs waiting at Swindon Station. Increased competition may well produce the perverse consequence of persuading many drivers to seek alternative employment, which, in Swindon is easy to find."
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swindon lift numbers
JD wrote:
Last night 20/7/05 Swindon voted to remove quantity control in favour of quality control. This now leaves the number of Authorities that do not restrict numbers at 238, restricted authorities stand at 53 and those yet to decide now stands at 52.

Very nice to see that in the report to members the licensing officer put down the doom and scare mongering points from the likes of the T&G.

For every doom and scare they mentioned, the licensing officer had a well thought out reposte.

I just can't work out for the life of me where he found such factual information. :roll: :roll:
Author:  187ums [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:42 pm ]
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i quote " The council argues that delimitation is necessary because there are not enough taxis on the road in the early hours of Saturday morning and defending the move, Coun Stan Pajak (Lib Dem, Eastcott) said: "This is the time to support the people of Swindon and what they want and not necessarily to support just a small economic group."

so the brothers in Swindon face an uncertain future because some councillors are worried about Saturday night.

i cant see any documentation where the Licensing Officer has made his statements.
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:59 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
NORTH Swindon MP Michael Wills has written to the chief executive of Swindon Council calling for a delay in the delimiting of taxi services.

I wonder if he was one of those that said councils should decide for themselves. :-k
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:00 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
so the brothers in Swindon face an uncertain future because some councillors are worried about Saturday night.

I wonder if you was one of those that said councils should decide for themselves. :-k
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:02 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
i cant see any documentation where the Licensing Officer has made his statements.

Why does that not surprise me? :?
Author:  TDO [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:36 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
so the brothers in Swindon face an uncertain future because some councillors are worried about Saturday night.



No more uncertain than the serfs at present surely? :?
Author:  TDO [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:40 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
There is already surplus capacity at many times during the week as you can see from the long lines of cabs waiting at Swindon Station. Increased competition may well produce the perverse consequence of persuading many drivers to seek alternative employment, which, in Swindon is easy to find."


So is he complaining that we might end up with more taxis queuing or less?

Probably just a case of saying whatever nonsense helps his case.
Author:  187ums [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:44 am ]
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no doubt you were thier as the fifth columnists, whooping for joy, slapping each other on the back, congratulating each other on the outcome.

Yes ultimatley it is for the council to decide, however they seem to have been given bad advice, no SUD, no consultation, we will wait and see what happens.
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:08 am ]
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187ums wrote:
no SUD, no consultation, we will wait and see what happens.

And what evidence do you have for that? When did any MP have a clue about this trade?

Even that pillock Efford knows f*** all, and he says he used to drive a London cab.

Maybe it was to deliver pizzas, who knows. :?

Instead of reading what the MP thinks is, and has been, happening, why not go to the committee database and type in taxi in the search engine.

Then you will find out the truth. :wink:
Author:  JD [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:08 am ]
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187ums wrote:
no doubt you were thier as the fifth columnists, whooping for joy, slapping each other on the back, congratulating each other on the outcome.

Yes ultimatley it is for the council to decide, however they seem to have been given bad advice, no SUD, no consultation, we will wait and see what happens.


I think you should let the remaining 52 councils get on with the task in hand. You know very well that every taxi trades body in the country stated, "councils are best placed to determine their own policy" so what exactly is your beef? It would appear you don't like councillors making democratic decisions that don't fit in with your own ideological concept.

You make out a powerful case that confirms the statement of these Trade bodies that "A council knows best" was just a propaganda tool used to brainwash MP's into doing nothing with the hope that the likes of you could manipulate local councillors into also doing nothing. That would have suited you fine but when councillors do exercise their legal right and make a decision that they believe is best for the community you and your ilk then criticise the council for doing exactly what the trade and yourself asked them to do.

Why don't you come right out and say what you really mean? Such as "councils know best" but only if they make the decision that you want them to make.

JD
Author:  187ums [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:03 pm ]
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like i said, if the council decides then so be it. However where the council has made a knee jerk reaction, as in this case, and not consulted the stakeholders, ( you do know what a stakeholder is??), then its not correct, and they should be afforded the opportunity to be heard.

Thier is only so much work in a certain area, we as drivers know our market best, these poor guys in Swindon are going to find it more difficult to make a living, but obviously you and your fraternity dont care about thier plight.

I will be watching Swindon closely.
Author:  TDO [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:22 pm ]
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Which 'guys' are you talking about, the serfs or your plate holding buddies?

As I've pointed out to you and ask you to address recently, all you are worried about is those in your privileged position, not the trade generally.

Your silence speaks volumes.
Author:  TDO [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:23 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
I will be watching Swindon closely.


Well that will make a change, because you have been babbling about a lack of consultation and the like, which demsontrates that you currently don't have a clue about what happened in Swindon.
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