Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Sun Apr 26, 2026 5:22 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 183 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 13  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Pro Deregulation
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: City of dreaming spires
i must admit i have been reading your debates for some time now. i would say that in some locations some form of regulation (orderly market) is the best way. I mean some cities are so tight, have so little space for further ranks. I mean where would an extra 10, 20 go? they would be lines of them stacked up, contributing to congestion and pollution!!

On Friday and Saturday nights people have a choice of transport, some people enjoy waiting in the taxi queues, its part of British Culture. Anyway my point is deregulation in some areas is the best way otherwise it would be choas.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Pro Deregulation
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57333
Location: 1066 Country
187ums wrote:
I mean where would an extra 10, 20 go? they would be lines of them stacked up, contributing to congestion and pollution!!

If there was no work for them they wouldn't go nowhere. Drivers would be pretty thick to license a motor, with all the costs involved, if they couldn't earn out of it.

As for the congestion and pollution, well if the drivers can't license a taxi, then they just license a PH, that contributes the same amount of congestion and pollution. :?

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:58 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:51 pm
Posts: 5795
Location: The Internet
But you can halve congestion and pollution by double shifting it :lol:

_________________
Taxi Driver Online
www.taxi-driver.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: City of dreaming spires
i actually wonder how many of you are real taxi drivers? because if you were you would understand the dynamics of the industry, more cars = longer working hours = less money for all.

I get the feeling that some of you are just envious, or worse are not real taxi drivers, just some people on a crusade to mess every ones living up!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57333
Location: 1066 Country
187ums wrote:
i actually wonder how many of you are real taxi drivers? because if you were you would understand the dynamics of the industry, more cars = longer working hours = less money for all.

I get the feeling that some of you are just envious, or worse are not real taxi drivers, just some people on a crusade to mess every ones living up!!

It has been said. Often by those who have never entertained the other side of the coin.

But the more cars = etc etc only works if you also limit the number of drivers, which existing laws rightly don't allow.

See cars don't drive themselves, so limiting the number of vehicles makes no sense, unless you are the owner of an existing license.

But please tell me why shouldn't all drivers be treated the same, and if they don't want to run their own car, then they can drive someones else's.

But as with the London taxi vehicle review, it should be the choice of the driver. :wink:

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:28 pm
Posts: 8998
Location: London
You got of lightly mate. :shock:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:51 pm
Posts: 5795
Location: The Internet
187ums wrote:
i actually wonder how many of you are real taxi drivers? because if you were you would understand the dynamics of the industry, more cars = longer working hours = less money for all.



But we keep on being told that restrictions mean that cars will be double shifted instead of singled.

So a town has 100 singled taxis, and £10,000 of work each day, therefore for each shift the driver takes £100.

But if the taxis are double-shifted, then each driver only takes £50. =D>

_________________
Taxi Driver Online
www.taxi-driver.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 3:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:51 pm
Posts: 5795
Location: The Internet
187ums wrote:
I get the feeling that some of you are just envious, or worse are not real taxi drivers, just some people on a crusade to mess every ones living up!!


I get the feeling you've been on here before :lol:

_________________
Taxi Driver Online
www.taxi-driver.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: City of dreaming spires
Actually I have never been on here before - the way i see it there are many arguments both for and against dereg. If you look back at my original thread what i said was that in some locations some form of regulation is the best way.

If the council said ok we are going to deregulate in your area, however you have to buy a 25 grand LTI TX2 is that also not a from of regulation?

I rest my case.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:51 pm
Posts: 5795
Location: The Internet
Well no one is arguing for deregulation, using the term in the sense that you seem to be.

Indeed, I usually argue for MORE regulation in quality terms, but not restricted numbers, which is unjust on drivers other than plateholders and economically inefficient as regards the public.

_________________
Taxi Driver Online
www.taxi-driver.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:17 pm
Posts: 189
Location: liverpool
In your original thread you say, people like waiting in taxi queues . I have heard some crap, but that beats the lot . Its not in any ones interest to limit taxi numbers , in liverpool we have a super class of people , who dont drive cabs, but own them . The fares are set not only to pay the wages of the driver , but pay the wages of a parasite . Who wins not the public there paying extortionate fares . not the tax payer as a large number of drivers get tax credit . The poor driver is being crushed between P H with which, he can not compete and greedy owners who are charging ever increasing rents . Streetcar.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57333
Location: 1066 Country
187ums wrote:
If the council said ok we are going to deregulate in your area, however you have to buy a 25 grand LTI TX2 is that also not a from of regulation?

There is a shed load of difference between quantity and quality restrictions.

Anyone can enter a trade with quality restrictions, but unless an existing owners wishes to leave the trade, then no-one can enter a quantity restricted trade.

I have had the odd tiff or two with elements of the London cab trade in my times, but the way they choose quality over quantity restrictions, is a credit to them all. :shock:

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:07 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: City of dreaming spires
Well guys we can go on and on over this one. I accept what you guys are saying about places like Liverpool and the superclass that exists thier.

Ask yourself this question why have they not deregulated? is it because thier is not enough space for an infinite number of black cabs? where are the ranks? will thier be enough work for all these extra cabs?

Where I work if they issued more licenses, it would lead to more congestion and pollution, just kidding about the long wait on a Saturday night!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:17 pm
Posts: 189
Location: liverpool
They did not delimit in Liverpool , because the council is basically thick . They are led, by the licensing officer Damien, who is a bit unstreet wise , he is led round by the nose, by joannne and mac( suposed to be T&G ) . He is not the brightest star in the sky . What Damien was doing giving evidence, to a select committee i do not. He is payed by the rate payer of Liverpool, why he feels the need to grovel to fleet owners, i do not even care to contemplate. Justice will overcome it may be three years or ten but delimiting will happen in Liverpool . Streetcar .


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:51 pm
Posts: 5795
Location: The Internet
187ums wrote:
Ask yourself this question why have they not deregulated? is it because thier is not enough space for an infinite number of black cabs? where are the ranks? will thier be enough work for all these extra cabs?



Presumably rank space isn't the problem because they watered down the knowledge test to get more drivers into the trade. And last year the council were placing press adverts to help the fleet owners recruit more drivers.

And they aren't bothered if there's enough work, all their worried about is having each cab on the road 24/7.

_________________
Taxi Driver Online
www.taxi-driver.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 183 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 13  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 655 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group