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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:51 pm 
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Southend has just changed its policy from quantity control to quality control and in future will not conduct anymore unmet demand surveys.

Here is the criteria if anyone is thinking of applying for a plate.


Criteria for Applicants for the issue of New Hackney Carriage Licences


1. All licences issued shall be and shall remain wheelchair accessible licences.

Applicants must::

2. Produce satisfactory individual Inland Revenue Tax calculations for three years.

3. Have had three years driving of licensed Hackney Carriage or Private Hire vehicles within the Borough (initially full time, but see 9 below).

4. Live within the Borough or within 3 miles by road of the Borough boundary - Preference will be given to Borough residents.

5. Not previously have held a Hackney Carriage licence.

6. Not be a proprietor or have part ownership in a Hackney Carriage licence.

7. Must undertake to transport mobility impaired passengers at their request whenever not already hired by another person. (This requirement will also be a condition of the licence if issued.)

8. Not previously have had a Hackney Carriage/Private Hire vehicle driver's licence suspended or revoked and not have received a written warning.

9. Satisfactorily comply with the above, if so then licences will be offered on the basis of longest serving full time drivers (if not enough numbers are produced by this method, longest serving years of part time driving).

10. Current part-time drivers, upon issue of the licence, must become full-time Hackney Carriage Drivers earning their living wholly or mainly in the taxi trade.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:57 pm 
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10. Current part-time drivers, upon issue of the licence, must become full-time Hackney Carriage Drivers earning their living wholly or mainly in the taxi trade.



I wonder how they plan to enforce that one?

Whats full time?

7 days a week, five hours a day?

Five days a week, 9 hours a day?

How can you prove someone does'nt do another job?

Will there be a lack of cabs on a Friday Night now the part time guys are effectivley banned?

Hmm? :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:03 pm 
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greenbadgecabby wrote:


I wonder how they plan to enforce that one?


I think you will find that most of the criterias used by licensing authorities would not stand up in a court of law but it all comes down to if you are prepared to back your own judgement against theirs in a court of law?

I didn't think it would take long for someone to comment on this criteria.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:05 pm 
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JD wrote:
Here is the criteria if anyone is thinking of applying for a plate.


Criteria for Applicants for the issue of New Hackney Carriage Licences



2. Produce satisfactory individual Inland Revenue Tax calculations for three years.


4. Live within the Borough or within 3 miles by road of the Borough boundary - Preference will be given to Borough residents.


10. Current part-time drivers, upon issue of the licence, must become full-time Hackney Carriage Drivers earning their living wholly or mainly in the taxi trade.


No 2 what tax calculations got to do with the council

No 4 That can't be enforced as there is a court case from long ago in our area that opened it up to anyone from any distance away

No 10 another as No4 [court case to allow you to have another job,] plus I don't know how some of these drivers do it, I'm to knackered to do anything else, that includes washing up, we have one or two who have proper jobs and do taxi driving as a top up


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:10 pm 
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7. Must undertake to transport mobility impaired passengers at their request whenever not already hired by another person. (This requirement will also be a condition of the licence if issued.)

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So if you are about to drive off from the station rank and a raspberry hails you, you've got to stop and turf the customer out?? 8-[

Eh?!!

Sure! Sorry mate, I would love to take you to Stansted, but i've got to take this impaired customer to tesco instead.

Yeah, wright! [-(

Equal opps and all that. :-({|=


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:13 pm 
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I've not taken much notice of provincial councils until JD posted this. My god who runs these licensing departments? :D

Clarence the clown and his two mates? :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:15 pm 
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No 2 what tax calculations got to do with the council

No 4 That can't be enforced as there is a court case from long ago in our area that opened it up to anyone from any distance away

No 10 another as No4 [court case to allow you to have another job,] plus I don't know how some of these drivers do it, I'm to knackered to do anything else, that includes washing up, we have one or two who have proper jobs and do taxi driving as a top up


lol I think some of these councils are engaging in competition to see who can come up with the best hard core criteria. Maybe the next council who removes quantity controls will come up with an all male policy, or over 50's only? lol

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Maybe one or two of those conditions could be viewed as legal, which begs the question what sort of a legal department have they at Southend. [-(

But as the NTA and T&G said, 'councils know best'. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:50 pm 
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greenbadgecabby wrote:

So if you are about to drive off from the station rank and a raspberry hails you, you've got to stop and turf the customer out?? 8-[

Eh?!!

Sure! Sorry mate, I would love to take you to Stansted, but i've got to take this impaired customer to tesco instead.

Yeah, wright! [-(

Equal opps and all that. :-({|=


lol You would be surprised at what some of these councils come up with but I must admit this is one of the best I've seen. lol

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Sussex wrote:
Maybe one or two of those conditions could be viewed as legal, which begs the question what sort of a legal department have they at Southend. [-(

But as the NTA and T&G said, 'councils know best'. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I was thinking Cannock Chase v Alldritt might be a good reference mark for anyone wishing to test this criteria? It has to be one of the best criteria yet published? lol

I wonder how many takers they will get? lol I can't stop laffing.

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There must be a queue the length of Southend pier of potential candidates for new licenses. That's quality control alright. :lol: :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:35 pm 
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[quote="JD"]Southend has just changed its policy from quantity control to quality control and in future will not conduct anymore unmet demand surveys.

Here is the criteria if anyone is thinking of applying for a plate.


Criteria for Applicants for the issue of New Hackney Carriage Licences

Applicants must
3. Have had three years driving of licensed Hackney Carriage or Private Hire vehicles within the Borough (initially full time, but see 9 below). :?

5. Not previously have held a Hackney Carriage licence. :lol:


Oh right, must have at least 3 yrs driving a hac, but not held a licence before.

Sounds lke our LO has been moonlighting in Southend
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Sussex wrote:
Maybe one or two of those conditions could be viewed as legal, which begs the question what sort of a legal department have they at Southend. [-(

But as the NTA and T&G said, 'councils know best'. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I should start to worry about Eastbourne's legal department, and, whether Eastbourne council and councillors know best. Do keep us posted. I wonder how many :lol:'s you will put up then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: >or<?


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jimbo wrote:
I should start to worry about Eastbourne's legal department, and, whether Eastbourne council and councillors know best. Do keep us posted. I wonder how many :lol:'s you will put up then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: >or<?

No council knows best. That includes the ones that have de-limited, and the ones that haven't (just yet).

And in time councils wont have a choice. As I said, you are all doomed. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
jimbo wrote:
I should start to worry about Eastbourne's legal department, and, whether Eastbourne council and councillors know best. Do keep us posted. I wonder how many :lol:'s you will put up then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: >or<?

No council knows best. That includes the ones that have de-limited, and the ones that haven't (just yet).

And in time councils wont have a choice. As I said, you are all doomed. :wink:


So, Sussex, you finally give away your real identity. You live in Walmington on sea, and you are Pte. Fraser fron "Dad's Army". "Doomed, aye, doomed I tell ye!" :lol: :lol: :wink:


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