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Unless you are living off this trade of ours, without actually working in it, exactly what is there to be lost by repealing section 16?

The plate value, that has been deemed to be worthless by the courts?

The street work, which is already being lost to PH, either legally or ill-legally?

Or it's just that some can't stomach equal competition?

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IDFIMH

sUSSEX,
WE ARE GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES

THERE IS nothing to fear but fear itself, however whats wrong with single code?

but you wont support it!

perhaps the best reason is that waddingtons couldnt print playing cards fast enough.

The reason I don't support it, is because I believe the practicalities of doing it, to be nigh on impossible.

In other words, it's no good supporting/pursuing something that will never happen.

You cannot disappear 120,000 PH drivers.

What we need is have choice, not to have restrictions.

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IDFIMH

Just over the border form us in Sutton In Ashfield they are capping plates as from the 1/4/04. This is due to the large number of plates being handed back in to the council, lack of rank spaces etc etc.

in other words they are capping on enforcement grounds and not to give drivers more profit.

on Suton Ashfields part this is fair laudable and correct,

this is how the law was meant to be.

No, they are capping because the council and the public are not getting any benefit from it, same as I said plates handed back in, lack of rank spaces and no WAVS, 4 years ago there were 16 WAVS in Sutton now there are 3. Don't take a rocket man to work it out does it??

If a large number of plates are being handed back, then why do they need to cap plates?

The 'market' is doing it for them.

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IDFIMH

Well I beg to differ.

The law has been set to only allow numbers to be restricted by demand.

I agree the enforcement issue, by standards, is perhaps the way you could restrict, but at present only sensible councils do it that way.

The thicko's still restrict by numbers.

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IDFIMH

Kin ell just read the post, as from 1/4/04 Ashfield Council are capping plate numbers for Hackneys reasons stated as above, plates being handed back, lack of rank space, lack of WAVS. They deregulated over 6 years ago they went from 49 hackneys to 124 hackneys, spaces for 12 cars on the rank.

Well I did read the post.

You mentioned the handing back of plates, so I said why restrict if the market is doing the job.

Lack of ranks, and lack of WAVs, are both evidence of rubbish officialdom.

Does anyone think restricting HC numbers will get more WAVs licensed?

I would have thought the opposite.

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IDFIMH

not that all things being equal I support capping, but in a town near here a deal has been struck, no increase in numbers and we will all go WAV.

opening the market will scupper the deal.

Would I be right in thinking that sutton is covered by the licensing Authority of Ashfield?

If that is the case would I be right in saying that Ashfield is deregulated?

Would I be right in saying that ashfield has never said they are going to re regulate H/C licences?

Would I be right in saying that Ashfield have recently altered the H/C licensing conditions to only licence Wheelchair accessible vehicles up to 12 month old, in the future?

Or do I have this completely wrong?

Best wishes.

JD

Section 16 enables a licensing authority to refuse a license if they are satisfied there is no unmet demand.

The result of this section enables councils to hold surveys.

The section is a safeguard to the HC trade, for HC bodies to wish it to be removed is total and utter folly.

The section perhaps needs updated, as at present a council can hold a survey, then issue licenses regardless, but the section also permits graduated growth.

Regards

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

A council doesnt need a survey to issue licences cap. It needs a survey to restrict them, if that indeed is what they want to do.

Best wishes

JD

Captain.
you missed out a very important word that word is significant

counils must proove there is no significant unmet demand.

nor can they if there is significant unmet demand refuse to issue licenses up to that significant unmet demand, there is a court case on this.


there is a lot of missunderstanding about section 16 ironicaly put in tho make issuing of licenses freer