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And with Cardiff and Milton Keynes also there or there abouts, there wont be many left soon.

Chelmsford: Taxi drivers challenge unlimited supply with survey

Campaigning taxi drivers say the results of a new survey show plans to allow an unlimited supply of taxis on Chelmsford streets will end up delivering the exact opposite of what their customers and other road users want.

Ian Vernon of the Chelmsford Taxi Association, said 500 road users and 250 taxi customers had been asked what improvements they would like to see on the borough's roads.

Most wanted shorter journey times - but the CTA believes that abolishing limits on the number of taxi licences issued could lead to hundreds of extra cabs plying for hire on the roads.

Mr Vernon said: "Based on the experience in other areas, like Liverpool, where the number of taxis increased by 300 per cent, we believe we could have another 250 taxis in Chelmsford. The road network won't support it. There are only 14 rank places in the town.

"If you get everyone out in the morning and evening rush hours that could be another 200 taxis trying to get a fare in the High Street and Little Baddow Road. The traffic congestion is bad enough as it is. "

A survey had previously recommended an increase of 16 to the borough's 82 licences to cope with the increase in population, and the CTA would be happy to accept this, said Mr Vernon.

Chelmsford borough council has set up a panel to look into the issue, which will be chaired by Conservative Cllr Alan Willsher.

So they are going to remove restrictions on numbers but in order to get a plate a WAV less than 3 years old must be presented. Therefore the cost of entering the trade stands at a minimum of £17,000, I say this because Cardiff only allow purpose built vehicles, no converted vans.

Gateshead Angel wrote:

What they are doing is giving licensed drivers a choice.

Is that so bad?

£17,000 +,I think in this day and age,the figure shown is not excessive,to start your own business.
I would think that any bank when presented with a half decent business plan,would give the person help.

Mr P O L. Getty

Maybe soon Gateshead will match those standards, new brooms sweep clean, and pretty soon we should all see those benefits.

Still no news about how much plates were changing hands for in Cardiff before this ruling, another news item put up with half the original content or the full context missing.

Don't they have phones in your manor then?

Author:	TDO [ Thu May 13, 2004 1:38 am ]
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Read the article here: http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/guildford.htm Discuss the issues below!

Author:	Guest [ Thu May 13, 2004 9:06 am ]
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So thats Guilford, Selby, Stratford and Chemlsford to add to the list. And with Cardiff and Milton Keynes also there or there abouts, there wont be many left soon.

Author:	2old4this [ Thu May 13, 2004 11:42 am ]
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Wycombe Council have sent out questionnaires to all HC/PH drivers plus they will ask the public for there view on the trade

Author:	Alex [ Thu May 13, 2004 4:26 pm ]
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Anonymous wrote: And with Cardiff and Milton Keynes also there or there abouts, there wont be many left soon. Well reaserched Mr Guest. Cardiff's decision; RESOLVED - That the Committee considered it appropriate in the circumstances that exist in Cardiff to remove the restriction on the number of Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licences issued and it was therefore agreed that: the decision of the Committee on 14 January, 2003, authorising the issue of six licences by way of lottery be rescinded; the limitation on the number of Hackney Carriage Proprietor Licences be removed; the grant of a Proprietor's Licence be subject to the following conditions: the vehicle must be less than three years old and approved as a purpose built Hackney Carriage by the Authority; and the vehicle must not be used by a driver that is not currently licensed by Cardiff County Council; the removal of the numerical limit on the issue of Hackney Carriage Proprietors (Vehicle) Licences be introduced from 23 October 2003. Milton Keynes decision date; http://cmis.milton-keynes.gov.uk/cmiswe ... ment=10153 Alex

Author:	Guest [ Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:02 pm ]
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Chelmsford: Taxi drivers challenge unlimited supply with survey Campaigning taxi drivers say the results of a new survey show plans to allow an unlimited supply of taxis on Chelmsford streets will end up delivering the exact opposite of what their customers and other road users want. Ian Vernon of the Chelmsford Taxi Association, said 500 road users and 250 taxi customers had been asked what improvements they would like to see on the borough's roads. Most wanted shorter journey times - but the CTA believes that abolishing limits on the number of taxi licences issued could lead to hundreds of extra cabs plying for hire on the roads. Mr Vernon said: "Based on the experience in other areas, like Liverpool, where the number of taxis increased by 300 per cent, we believe we could have another 250 taxis in Chelmsford. The road network won't support it. There are only 14 rank places in the town. "If you get everyone out in the morning and evening rush hours that could be another 200 taxis trying to get a fare in the High Street and Little Baddow Road. The traffic congestion is bad enough as it is. " A survey had previously recommended an increase of 16 to the borough's 82 licences to cope with the increase in population, and the CTA would be happy to accept this, said Mr Vernon. Chelmsford borough council has set up a panel to look into the issue, which will be chaired by Conservative Cllr Alan Willsher.

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Author:	Gateshead Angel [ Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:22 pm ]
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RE: Cardiff. So they are going to remove restrictions on numbers but in order to get a plate a WAV less than 3 years old must be presented. Therefore the cost of entering the trade stands at a minimum of £17,000, I say this because Cardiff only allow purpose built vehicles, no converted vans. Licenses will only be granted to people who currently hold a Cardiff badge. Why, when the whole point of de-regulating the numbers is to encourage greater numbers. The sad thing is that some would see this as a victory, deregulating the numbers but then making it just as difficult to enter the trade as it was before doesn't seem like a step towards anything but compromise which will only further add to confusion. Does anyone know how much a plate was in Cardiff before this ruling???? B. Lucky

Author:	Guest [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:41 am ]
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Anonymous wrote: Chelmsford: Taxi drivers challenge unlimited supply with survey Campaigning taxi drivers say the results of a new survey show plans to allow an unlimited supply of taxis on Chelmsford streets will end up delivering the exact opposite of what their customers and other road users want. Ian Vernon of the Chelmsford Taxi Association, said 500 road users and 250 taxi customers had been asked what improvements they would like to see on the borough's roads. Most wanted shorter journey times - but the CTA believes that abolishing limits on the number of taxi licences issued could lead to hundreds of extra cabs plying for hire on the roads. Mr Vernon said: "Based on the experience in other areas, like Liverpool, where the number of taxis increased by 300 per cent, we believe we could have another 250 taxis in Chelmsford. The road network won't support it. There are only 14 rank places in the town. "If you get everyone out in the morning and evening rush hours that could be another 200 taxis trying to get a fare in the High Street and Little Baddow Road. The traffic congestion is bad enough as it is. " A survey had previously recommended an increase of 16 to the borough's 82 licences to cope with the increase in population, and the CTA would be happy to accept this, said Mr Vernon. Chelmsford borough council has set up a panel to look into the issue, which will be chaired by Conservative Cllr Alan Willsher. The solution here is no more taxis and lapsing the licenses there already because chelmsford taxis only block the street. the taxi association is run by idiots.

Author:	Gateshead Angel [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:18 am ]
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Newcastle upon Tyne City Council have temporarily suspended the issuance of new licenses for over 4 years now. They have defended legal challenges successfully on 4 occasions. They hold regular un-met demand surveys and publish the findings. They also have a strict policy when applicants look to enter the trade to ensure that the people entering the trade treat their positions with profesionalism, this has seen fewer complaints from the public and a rise in driver standards. Maybe soon Gateshead will match those standards, new brooms sweep clean, and pretty soon we should all see those benefits. B. Lucky

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:54 am ]
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Gateshead Angel wrote: So they are going to remove restrictions on numbers but in order to get a plate a WAV less than 3 years old must be presented. Therefore the cost of entering the trade stands at a minimum of £17,000, I say this because Cardiff only allow purpose built vehicles, no converted vans. What they are doing is giving licensed drivers a choice. Is that so bad?

Author:	Guest [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:58 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Gateshead Angel wrote: So they are going to remove restrictions on numbers but in order to get a plate a WAV less than 3 years old must be presented. Therefore the cost of entering the trade stands at a minimum of £17,000, I say this because Cardiff only allow purpose built vehicles, no converted vans. What they are doing is giving licensed drivers a choice. Is that so bad? £17,000 +,I think in this day and age,the figure shown is not excessive,to start your own business. I would think that any bank when presented with a half decent business plan,would give the person help. Mr P O L. Getty

Author:	Gateshead Angel [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:59 pm ]
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Anonymous wrote: £17,000 +,I think in this day and age,the figure shown is not excessive,to start your own business. I would think that any bank when presented with a half decent business plan,would give the person help. Mr P O L. Getty Current prices for a saloon H/C plate in Gateshead is £17.5k. Until deregulation the cost of a saloon plate varied between £5k in the summer to £6k in the winter. SM regards the £6k premium as appauling yet jumps through hoops when a council releases plates but adds conditions which mean a minimum investment of £17k. Still no news about how much plates were changing hands for in Cardiff before this ruling, another news item put up with half the original content or the full context missing. Great job guys B. Lucky

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:40 pm ]
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Gateshead Angel wrote: Maybe soon Gateshead will match those standards, new brooms sweep clean, and pretty soon we should all see those benefits. What's that someone keeps on about dreaming the dream?

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:41 pm ]
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Anonymous wrote: £17,000 +,I think in this day and age,the figure shown is not excessive,to start your own business. I would think that any bank when presented with a half decent business plan,would give the person help. Yes but is it a risk or a gamble?

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:42 pm ]
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Gateshead Angel wrote: Still no news about how much plates were changing hands for in Cardiff before this ruling, another news item put up with half the original content or the full context missing. Don't they have phones in your manor then?

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Author:	Gateshead Angel [ Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:07 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Don't they have phones in your manor then? I haven't got your number SM