At the moment we’re sitting for two to three hours between each job.
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:07 pm ] |
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There must be 100s of folks just wanting to pay £20-35,000 for a WAV to sit around all day earning nothing. http://www.woking.co.uk/news/2017/20172 ... e_concerns |
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| Author: | TDO [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:05 pm ] |
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At the moment we’re sitting for two to three hours between each job.
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| Author: | jasbar [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:17 pm ] |
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TDO wrote: At the moment we’re sitting for two to three hours between each job.
Enough time then to get your brain in gear and work out how you're going to compete. Contemplating your navel sure ain't going to win back customers. Band together. Form a company. Market that company. Invest. Seek contracts delivering flowers, catalogue company goods, "just in time" delivery of motor repair parts, legal document and other kinds of courier work etc. Intra company personnel transport, external company transport needs. Tourist tours. Golf and other sports tours. Local authority school runs. It's about maximising your vehicles throughout the whole working day. And if there is an unavoiudable slack period, that's when you take your break. Idling in your taxi can be sould destroying. keep your eye on the bigger picture. Recognise, adapt and change. The only real comparison is what the financial state at the year end is. Your ongoing concerns are to keep account of what's happening currently so there are no nasty surprises at the end. This is how every other market operates. Taxis are no different. |
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| Author: | badger [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:57 am ] |
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TDO wrote: At the moment we’re sitting for two to three hours between each job. I see what you mean Dusty ,i have just read his comment as well 
By the way i thought that woking was a fairly largely populated area,so why only 66 Hacks and only 360 PH  .
If like he says that he sits about for 2-3 hours for a job,he must get well p"ssed off if his luck is out and they are all short ones 
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| Author: | taxitrainer [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:29 am ] |
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Well said, Jasbar. Market forces - use them to your advantage. A bit of hard work usually pays off - go out and get those awkward-to-get contracts and it'll soon be the other people who are twiddling their thumbs. Good Luck. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:50 pm ] |
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Remember your tariff sheet is only the maximum you can charge your free to undercut the riff raff 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:55 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Remember your tariff sheet is only the maximum you can charge your free to undercut the riff raff
From my experience it's the riff raff that do most of the undercutting.
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:56 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: From my experience it's the riff raff that do most of the undercutting.
And most of the ripping-off around Christmas & New Year when they are in their prime, touting & plying on the streets, when they should only be servicing pre-bookings. £59 for a 4 mile journey was the record in the run-up to Christmas last year in Brum. In the local paper for all to see. But of course it's quite legal for the riff-raff to charge what they like. And they do!!! |
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| Author: | jasbar [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:24 am ] |
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taxitrainer wrote: Well said, Jasbar.
Market forces - use them to your advantage. A bit of hard work usually pays off - go out and get those awkward-to-get contracts and it'll soon be the other people who are twiddling their thumbs. Good Luck. Only problem is, in restricted areas such competitive enterprise is stifled. It is almost impossible to undertake the enterprising actions to boost turnover and income. By restricting the number of taxis, councils are effectively rendering drivers little more than chattel pseudo "employees" under direct council control. Of course, council largesse doesn't extend to providing sick pay, holiday pay, pension rights or any other employees rights. Drivers get a rough deal. That's why de-restriction is essential for drivers. And why the stifling of taxi numbers mitigates against providing the best possible taxi service for customers. Perhaps the biggest difficulty in persuading councils that restriction is wrong, is their desire to maintain control. It's a political requirement for them to massage their egos by inflicting contro, on others. The servants have become the masters. We've seen it in all walks of life. It has to end, before the big brother state does in deed become fact rather than fantasy. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:31 pm ] |
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jasbar wrote: taxitrainer wrote: Well said, Jasbar. Market forces - use them to your advantage. A bit of hard work usually pays off - go out and get those awkward-to-get contracts and it'll soon be the other people who are twiddling their thumbs. Good Luck. Only problem is, in restricted areas such competitive enterprise is stifled. It is almost impossible to undertake the enterprising actions to boost turnover and income. By restricting the number of taxis, councils are effectively rendering drivers little more than chattel pseudo "employees" under direct council control. Of course, council largesse doesn't extend to providing sick pay, holiday pay, pension rights or any other employees rights. Drivers get a rough deal. That's why de-restriction is essential for drivers. And why the stifling of taxi numbers mitigates against providing the best possible taxi service for customers. Perhaps the biggest difficulty in persuading councils that restriction is wrong, is their desire to maintain control. It's a political requirement for them to massage their egos by inflicting contro, on others. The servants have become the masters. We've seen it in all walks of life. It has to end, before the big brother state does in deed become fact rather than fantasy. FFS I know keyboards are cheap and I could potentially come up with an argument associating you with global warming but can you tell me the point of writing such meaningless drivel? CC |
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| Author: | jasbar [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:50 pm ] |
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Yes Captain Cab. To put down greedy feckers like you who have had it your own way for far too long. You think you're a good "businessman"? Then compete. And let others do likeways. But you're not are you? You're just a greedy grasper who can only maintain your little illusion by stopping others from being better than you. That's why the "drivel" as you put is necessary. When justice reigns supreme, then we can all get on with making some dough. Did you get it greedo?
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:01 pm ] |
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jasbar wrote: Yes Captain Cab.
To put down greedy feckers like you who have had it your own way for far too long. You think you're a good "businessman"? Then compete. And let others do likeways. But you're not are you? You're just a greedy grasper who can only maintain your little illusion by stopping others from being better than you. That's why the "drivel" as you put is necessary. When justice reigns supreme, then we can all get on with making some dough. Did you get it greedo? And when everyone in the country is a Hackney or Private Hire driver, we'll all be hiring each other to take us to our destinations, & disappearing up our assholes trying to earn a living. It's a wonderful theory this market forces, which is part of the free market theory. But the cab trade has only been given some of the components of the free market theory; only those which legislators deem that we should have. Free markets contrast sharply with controlled markets or regulated markets, in which governments directly or indirectly regulate prices or supplies, distorting (according to free market theory) market signals. You give me the FULL COMPONENTS OF A FREE MARKET THEORY, & I will compete with anyone. But what we have been given by legislators is their warped version of market forces. Perhaps you might want to read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_economy |
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| Author: | jasbar [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:11 pm ] |
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Precisely. It's like being given half a ladder and being expected to still get to the top. Government thinks it can organise markets better than the markets themselves. But we all know how wrong that is. The privatised industries being cases in points. Particularly steel, which is now producing more steel than ever and infinitely more efficiently and cost effectively. Problem government has is that it encourages local authority ownership and control of public transport systems. They don't want competition. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:23 pm ] |
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jasbar wrote: But we all know how wrong that is. The privatised industries being cases in points. Particularly steel, which is now producing more steel than ever and infinitely more efficiently and cost effectively. Problem government has is that it encourages local authority ownership and control of public transport systems. They don't want competition. Good point.....I wonder if youve noticed how cheap the fuel is....and gas...errm and electricity is getting cheaper by the day Now what were you saying about market forces? And how come the same products are cheaper in France? Definately cost effective I presume you think it was a good idea closing all those coalmines and shipyards too....after all why should we bother ourselves when we can get it cheaper from abroad......unfortunately those damned jonnie foreigners seem to have the idea that we need them more than they need us now....so they kind of have us over a barrel.....never mind market forces will prevail. jasbar wrote: Yes Captain Cab.
To put down greedy feckers like you who have had it your own way for far too long. You think you're a good "businessman"? Then compete. And let others do likeways. But you're not are you? You're just a greedy grasper who can only maintain your little illusion by stopping others from being better than you. That's why the "drivel" as you put is necessary. When justice reigns supreme, then we can all get on with making some dough. Did you get it greedo? Had it my way for too long? Yeah good one....we've been deregulated for 13 years and the public now have no PH and will pay the same fare irrespective of the company they phone......market forces....your having a laugh. ffs CC |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:43 pm ] |
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Quote: Had it my way for too long? Yeah good one....we've been deregulated for 13 years and the public now have no PH and will pay the same fare irrespective of the company they phone......market forces....your having a laugh.
CC you dont have to charge whats on the meter, you can charge less if you want. That's what they mean by competition
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