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Author:  captain cab [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:38 am ]
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deregulation has led to too many taxis - and some don't know where they're going



Wednesday October 29 2008

There are too many taxi drivers in Dublin, many of whom do not know their way around, a Dublin city transport committee has heard.

Since the introduction of deregulation, there are now more taxis than the city can cope with, the transportation and traffic strategic policy committee heard.

Cllr Deirdre Heney (Fianna Fail) said the amount of taxis in operation in the city is worrying, especially since taxi plates continue to be issued, even though they've reached saturation point.

"There seems to be a difficulty with the amount of taxi plates now being issued. I don't know how we can curtail the number of plates," she said.

Cllr Heney added that the huge number of taxis is contributing to the traffic jams around the city.

"There are too many taxis. Even from an environmental point of view, all the taxi ranks are full.

"Taxi men are getting hassled by the gardai and quite rightly so because they're blocking the way because there's nowhere else to park, and they're wasting petrol."

Cllr Heney added that it's hard for taxi drivers to make ends meet now there are so many taxis in operation.

"It seems the guy who is driving a taxi as a full time job has his work cut out for him if he wants to make a decent wage, because anyone can buy a plate.

"There's a lot of angst out there," she added.

Cllr McCartan (Fine Gael) says: "Ireland now has 98 people per taxi, whereas in London it's 300 and in Copenhagen it's 280. There are too many taxis."

He said a problem exists "if you look at how easy it is to get a taxi plate with "one stop taxi shops".

He added that it's worrying that some taxi drivers don't know the whereabouts of their fare's destination, and he said it's not acceptable that drivers are relying on technology to guide them around the city.

aggrieved

"There's a definite query about the sat nav systems. It's not satisfactory to me that someone should drive a taxi and not know their way around."

"Now if people are seeking a taxi driver job, it wouldn't be feasible," he said referring to the number of taxis on the streets.

Cllr Dermot Lacey (Labour) said: "Those who argued against deregulation were right.

"Some taxi drivers don't know the city," he agreed.

"A lot of taxi drivers feel very aggrieved when they are moved on by the guards."
Author:  gusmac [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:44 am ]
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captain cab wrote:
deregulation has led to too many taxis - and some don't know where they're going..........

He added that it's worrying that some taxi drivers don't know the whereabouts of their fare's destination, and he said it's not acceptable that drivers are relying on technology to guide them around the city.

"There's a definite query about the sat nav systems. It's not satisfactory to me that someone should drive a taxi and not know their way around."

"Some taxi drivers don't know the city," he agreed.


Ooops! Did somebody forget the quality controls? Never mind lets just blame the delimitation. :lol:
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:51 pm ]
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too many taxis

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Author:  gusmac [ Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:51 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
too many taxis


No argument there.
Author:  187ums [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:40 pm ]
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funny how the "unholy trinity" have made no comment, after all these are the same three stooges that worshipped the ground that john fingleton walked on, and now further proof is on offer i wonder if they will deny it?
Author:  JD [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:18 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
funny how the "unholy trinity" have made no comment, after all these are the same three stooges that worshipped the ground that john fingleton walked on, and now further proof is on offer i wonder if they will deny it?


The fiasco in Dublin is a classic example of what happens when you don't have in place a policy for deregulation.

Deregulation was unplanned, it was brought about by the courts and the rest is now a matter of history. Dublin is a lesson to all those authorities that fail in the area of quality controls.

The fiasco in Eire was home made and any fool could have predicted it, even you.

Regards

JD
Author:  187ums [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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well the only "fool" here is your object of fascination i.e. Master John Fingleton, now the chairman of the oft
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:43 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
funny how the "unholy trinity" have made no comment, after all these are the same three stooges that worshipped the ground that john fingleton walked on, and now further proof is on offer i wonder if they will deny it?

I'm not sure I know anyone who wants rid of all standards.
Author:  187ums [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:57 pm ]
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all we need now is TDO to make an appearance ........
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:01 pm ]
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187ums wrote:
all we need now is TDO to make an appearance ........

Please remind me when anyone on TDO has ever proposed total no standards deregulation. :-k

Standards good, restrictions bad. :wink:
Author:  JD [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:24 am ]
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187ums wrote:
well the only "fool" here is your object of fascination i.e. Master John Fingleton, now the chairman of the oft


The only discussion regarding John Fingleton centered on his track record in Eire and his possible agenda for change at the OFT. Once it became apparent he had no agenda for change he was no longer newsworthy. That is it in a nutshell. The only person who seems fascinated with John Fingleton is you.

Regards

JD
Author:  captain cab [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:29 am ]
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187ums wrote:
i wonder if they will deny it?


I think you were right. :wink:

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Author:  JD [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:43 am ]
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187ums wrote:
well the only "fool" here is your object of fascination i.e. Master John Fingleton, now the chairman of the oft


I wasn't aware I had a fascination for John Fingleton, although I did highlight his track record, which no doubt raised a few temperatures at the time.

Dublin is a classic case of what happens when the court decides a policy is unlawful. The only people to blame are those that implemented the policy in the first place without the foresight to plan for the possible doomsday scenario.

Liverpool was another tragedy in terms of mismanaging deregulation.

Regards

JD
Author:  Fae Fife [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:40 pm ]
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In this area the trade started complaing about drivers not knowing their way around after numbers had been restricted. :roll:

As for Dublin, what I can't understand is what changed between then and now that means drivers don't know where they're going - that's where the answer lies, and I can't logically see how this can be attributed to limits on vehicle numbers. #-o
Author:  dundee wav [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:05 am ]
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the fact this comitee used the comment (some do not know where they are going)shows how dedicated a survey (if its that) they did, a lot of qualified taxi drivers still struggle with adereses wether it be new builds or just not often visited streets,what this has to do with taxi numbers i dont know, maybe if dundee put 100 of the 800+ cabs off the road all the other cabs would know where they are going?worth a try
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