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 Post subject: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:07 am 
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We all know how difficult the Knowledge of London is, but is it the most difficult taxi knowledge test in the world? Does anyone have any data on the subject? Is there any official data on the subject? Somehow I doubt it.

And I suppose it's got to be the most difficult knowledge test in the UK, but I wonder how the rest of the country compares in terms of difficulty. I suspect there's no kind of official or other data available on this at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:08 am 
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We all know how difficult the Knowledge of London is, but is it the most difficult taxi knowledge test in the world? Does anyone have any data on the subject? Is there any official data on the subject? Somehow I doubt it.

And I suppose it's got to be the most difficult knowledge test in the UK, but I wonder how the rest of the country compares in terms of difficulty. I suspect there's no kind of official or other data available on this at all.



couldnt be ar*ed with a proper question then. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:11 am 
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Yes, it's infectious, innit :D


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:17 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
And I suppose it's got to be the most difficult knowledge test in the UK, but I wonder how the rest of the country compares in terms of difficulty. I suspect there's no kind of official or other data available on this at all.

I nominate the B&H knowledge test as the hardest PH test in the world.

And thank f*** for that. \:D/

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:56 pm 
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A lot of councils publish a list questions,and tell new drivers they after answer say ten out of the 30 or so questions,when I was on the Ashfield web site I saw a list of theses questions but the answers they were looking for we're wrong anyway.at a meeting recently an owner said a driver applied for a job and brought an interpreter to the interview,when asked how he passed the knowledge test he said he memorised the questions and answers?


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:39 pm 
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In Birmingham the 'Knowledge Folder' contains 12 legal questions (but not the answers) of which you have to answer 6 of their choosing, and get 100% right or the test wouldn't proceed.

Then there are points of interest which they call two point locations, you need to know the road they are on and the next nearest road opposite or adjacent, there are 1680 of these and again, they don't give the answers, but if there are 2 places with similar names, they gave a rough Idea of location eg.

The Yenton Banqueting Suite (Sutton Coldfield).
The Yenton Pub (Erdington).

There are 342 routes to learn, again no answers, just a start and end point. work out the best route and memorise the entire journey.

Just one test, 20 of the routes and 80 of the points of interest, all chosen randomly from the list.

90% or over to pass.

Fail 3 times in 12 months and you are banned from taking it again for 12 months.


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:51 am 
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All I know is it's not as hard now as it was 11 years ago and ph and hc take the same test. I think I asked a similar question a while back and Sussex was as proud then of their knowledge test as he is now :D

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:31 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
And I suppose it's got to be the most difficult knowledge test in the UK, but I wonder how the rest of the country compares in terms of difficulty. I suspect there's no kind of official or other data available on this at all.

I nominate the B&H knowledge test as the hardest PH test in the world.

And thank f*** for that. \:D/


Q1, where is the end of the prom :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:57 am 
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Q1, where is the end of the prom :lol: :lol:

The opposite end to the front.

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:21 pm 
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TX11 CAB wrote:
In Birmingham the 'Knowledge Folder' contains 12 legal questions (but not the answers) of which you have to answer 6 of their choosing, and get 100% right or the test wouldn't proceed.

Then there are points of interest which they call two point locations, you need to know the road they are on and the next nearest road opposite or adjacent, there are 1680 of these and again, they don't give the answers, but if there are 2 places with similar names, they gave a rough Idea of location eg.

The Yenton Banqueting Suite (Sutton Coldfield).
The Yenton Pub (Erdington).

There are 342 routes to learn, again no answers, just a start and end point. work out the best route and memorise the entire journey.

Just one test, 20 of the routes and 80 of the points of interest, all chosen randomly from the list.

90% or over to pass.

Fail 3 times in 12 months and you are banned from taking it again for 12 months.

And the Brum PH Knowledge Test, brought in about 18 months ago is identical, except there are only 600ish routes and two-point locations in the syllabus.

There were about 6 HC reps, (your's truly being one of them) asked to take a verification (dummy) test just before it went live.

Sh*t it was hard.

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
TX11 CAB wrote:
In Birmingham the 'Knowledge Folder' contains 12 legal questions (but not the answers) of which you have to answer 6 of their choosing, and get 100% right or the test wouldn't proceed.

Then there are points of interest which they call two point locations, you need to know the road they are on and the next nearest road opposite or adjacent, there are 1680 of these and again, they don't give the answers, but if there are 2 places with similar names, they gave a rough Idea of location eg.

The Yenton Banqueting Suite (Sutton Coldfield).
The Yenton Pub (Erdington).

There are 342 routes to learn, again no answers, just a start and end point. work out the best route and memorise the entire journey.

Just one test, 20 of the routes and 80 of the points of interest, all chosen randomly from the list.

90% or over to pass.

Fail 3 times in 12 months and you are banned from taking it again for 12 months.

And the Brum PH Knowledge Test, brought in about 18 months ago is identical, except there are only 600ish routes and two-point locations in the syllabus.

There were about 6 HC reps, (your's truly being one of them) asked to take a verification (dummy) test just before it went live.

Sh*t it was hard.



Akin to plate barrons really.make the test hard less drivers,restriction of trade?


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:10 pm 
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toots wrote:
I think I asked a similar question a while back and Sussex was as proud then of their knowledge test as he is now :D
Well, then you perhaps remember too that I seconded that motion back then too (or perhaps it even was the other way round) and now move to strike, for I am in the unpleasant position to perhaps have to do the most difficult knowledge (test) in the world for another time and I can tell you people, it is actually much more fun to just repeat it when you had been there before and have a lot of memories than doing it the first time you don´t have a clue of what you are doing actually, seriously, it is a great intellectual challenge and there is truth and beauty in it, yet!
It still gives me the creeps!
Whenever I am on it (for it is still not sure I will actually do it) it gives me panic attacks and keeps me from sleeping, for there is no way to stop all those road names popping up when I just want to doze off!
at Sussex: my favy still is Westdene! :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:12 pm 
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TX11 CAB wrote:
In Birmingham the 'Knowledge Folder' contains 12 legal questions (but not the answers) of which you have to answer 6 of their choosing, and get 100% right or the test wouldn't proceed.

Then there are points of interest which they call two point locations, you need to know the road they are on and the next nearest road opposite or adjacent, there are 1680 of these and again, they don't give the answers, but if there are 2 places with similar names, they gave a rough Idea of location eg.

The Yenton Banqueting Suite (Sutton Coldfield).
The Yenton Pub (Erdington).

There are 342 routes to learn, again no answers, just a start and end point. work out the best route and memorise the entire journey.

Just one test, 20 of the routes and 80 of the points of interest, all chosen randomly from the list.

90% or over to pass.

Fail 3 times in 12 months and you are banned from taking it again for 12 months.




We could do with that in our manor, it might stop the £3 jobs becoming £7 jobs.


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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
And the Brum PH Knowledge Test, brought in about 18 months ago is identical, except there are only 600ish routes and two-point locations in the syllabus.

There were about 6 HC reps, (your's truly being one of them) asked to take a verification (dummy) test just before it went live.

Sh*t it was hard.



so, er, does that make you the....

Dummy Brummy?

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 Post subject: Re: Knowledge tests
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Brummy, just a spit from BHX/castle brom, etc is North Warks BC, where there is no knowledge test, a Coleshill base (no rank exists) with a big aeriel and a 0800 number could have a PH fleet covering birmingham...

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