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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:13 pm 
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what about the local firm with about 6 lwb 17 seater buses who fetch staff in/out

Hire and Reward.....isnt the PAYE driver rewarded?

D1 or D1 101?

Are you sure that the driver is not PAYE? if he is then it is more likely to be PCV already and not S19.


Drivers ARE "PAYE" ...and D1 wasnt asked for

cos I applied

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:46 pm 
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It is quite legal for a company minibus to be used to convey staff providing they don't pay a fare. You, like the DafT confuse the carriage of passengers for hire and reward and the driving of the vehicle for reward, i.e. getting paid to drive. The two are entirely different.

It is whether or not the passengers pay for their transport either directly or through another party.


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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 6:43 pm 
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http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/05/3 ... d-1038615/

for the Irish view and the truth about the problem.


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:16 am 
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roythebus wrote:
http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/05/30/news/-not-for-profit-minibus-drivers-could-have-licences-rendered-invalid-if-european-commission-ruling-is-enforced-1038615/

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However, Charlotte Hughes from the Community Transport Association said its members should "assume they can conduct business as usual".


It's less about absolute care and all about feathering ones own nest.....Running such schemes can be very a lucrative position for many of these Community Transport types directors, go take a look at some of your local CT groups on the Companies house website, that'll open your eyes to what wages go out and to whom. unlike the self employed who's incomes come out of the profits the CT Directors salaries come out of the costs and expenses to the Group, It becomes quite easy not to make a profit when you simply cream off the Profit margin as wages.. it all fits the "Not for Profit" charade very nicely.

Just a Scam masquerading as a do gooder charity.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:53 pm 
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You've hit the nail on the head there Bloodnock! Like the CT group in the west Midlands that runs over 850 s19 minibuses...not for profit?? All unlicenced, all used for Hire and Reward, all with highly paid directors and volunteer drivers. Mugs.


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roythebus wrote:
You've hit the nail on the head there Bloodnock! Like the CT group in the west Midlands that runs over 850 s19 minibuses...not for profit?? All unlicenced, all used for Hire and Reward, all with highly paid directors and volunteer drivers. Mugs.



What yer doing about it ?? Maybe a meet with our new minister of transport might be helpful after the election :D :D

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You've hit the nail on the head there Bloodnock! Like the CT group in the west Midlands that runs over 850 s19 minibuses...not for profit?? All unlicenced, all used for Hire and Reward, all with highly paid directors and volunteer drivers. Mugs.



What yer doing about it ?? Maybe a meet with our new minister of transport might be helpful after the election :D :D

Well should the coalition of chaos win (no f***ing chance), then it will be the Green woman and we will all be on push bikes.

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Maybe a meet with our new minister of transport might be helpful after the election :D :D


You think Mrs May is going to move Chris Grayling to another post?

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Maybe a meet with our new minister of transport might be helpful after the election :D :D


You think Mrs May is going to move Chris Grayling to another post?


only a fish would ask ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:42 pm 
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Roy reckon Unite will be in the mix being a member would help :D


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The latest nail in the coffin is this letter from the DaFT telling the CTA groups they MUST get all their drivers licenced with class D licences, Driver CPC and get their buses licenced as PSVs.
http://ctauk.us11.list-manage.com/track ... 2e22699cb1


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The latest nail in the coffin is this letter from the DaFT telling the CTA groups they MUST get all their drivers licenced with class D licences, Driver CPC and get their buses licenced as PSVs.
http://ctauk.us11.list-manage.com/track ... 2e22699cb1

That is quite a nail. :D :D :D :D

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Sussex wrote:
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The latest nail in the coffin is this letter from the DaFT telling the CTA groups they MUST get all their drivers licenced with class D licences, Driver CPC and get their buses licenced as PSVs.
http://ctauk.us11.list-manage.com/track ... 2e22699cb1

That is quite a nail. :D :D :D :D



But only if it's used in conjunction with a big enough Hammer to drive it home.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:54 pm 
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There is a very large hammer waiting to drive it home. There is a case ongoing at the moment which cannot be commented upon for the usual legal reasons as mentioned in the link. They will have to comply or else.

Quite how the government and the DaFT can be so inept as to mis-intepret the law for so many years beggars belief, but then looking at recent performances nothing surprises me now. Pigeons coming home to roost.


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