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97% of us use the meter within our zone, outside our zone we give them a quote and the meter is off
The missing 3% never use there meter at anytime

Only 3%! around here it is nearer 30% but because the public don't know it is wrong they don't complain to the council. They complain to each other and to other taxi drivers but not to the council. Because the council don't get any complaints they will not instigate any action on these firms and individual drivers. I forget the last time I saw our enforcement officer out at night.

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Grandad,

Yes; that's what I do.

If I (rarely) negotiate a fixed fare which I know is lower than the metered fare, I put the meter on & when it reaches the agreed fare I inform the passengers, then switch the meter off.

If I do that it's always MUF.

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What's even more amazing is that Stratford-upon-Avon fares are already very high; higher than Brum's.

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But, if a fixed fare is quoted that crosses the border, can it be higher than the meter?

Oh yes.

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Goodman vs. Searle

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I have just spoken to the taxi company in Stratford upon Avon involved in this matter, but so that they don't get loads of calls on the matter, I won't reveal who they are.

(Clue = James Bond)

Naturally, I have told them that this topic is being discussed on this Forum & who knows, perhaps another member or two will join from the Stratford-upon-Avon area.

I was told that the impugned hiring COMMENCED & TERMINATED WITHIN THEIR LICENSED AREA!!

Thank God for that!!

Interestingly, I was also told that a fighting fund is being / has been set up to take the matter further to Judicial Review, the belief being that the hiring was of a Private Hire & not a Hackney Carriage nature.

And before you all have a go at me ..... I AM THE MESSENGER!

I await developments with great interest.

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Thanks for that Brummie, you seem to have answered the main questions.

Although a number of others now arise.

In rural areas Hackney Carriages have to travel very often in excess of say 10 miles plus to do a 2 mile job......the fare is often charged from the point where the Hackney Carriage is...this case.....if publicised will stop that practice.

If the vehicle involved was a PHV then no case would probably have arisen.

Section 67 of the 76 Act states;

67 Hackney carriages used for private hire

(1) No hackney carriage shall be used in the district under contract or purported contract for private hire except at a rate of fares or charges not greater than that fixed by the byelaws or table mentioned in section 66 of this Act, and, when any such hackney carriage is so used, the fare or charge shall be calculated from the point in the district at which the hirer commences his journey.

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My view on the red bit above is that the only way to LEGALLY charge extra for the ten mile run-on to do a two mile job is to have a set telephone booking fee ON THE TABLE OF FARES & charge it on the extras.

But that would;

Firstly have to be passed as a Variation of the Table of Fares by the Licensing Authority & there is no telling whether they would pass such a variation.

Secondly, it would not be proportionate to the distance of run-on, because run-ons would naturally vary in mileage.

BUT, as I have said time & time again, we are dealing with legislation that is outdated & has not even remotely kept pace with techonological developments.

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Surely it does not need to be published ..... won't this be case law & therefore enforceable by the courts?

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My view is that the only way to do this legally,at the moment, is private hire.

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Grandad,

Yes it can, PROVIDED it is agreed before the commencement of the hiring, otherwise only the metered fare can be charged & no more.

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Which then really begs the question ..... why has there not been any lobbying by the national Hackney representative bodies on the grounds of competition on this matter?

As I keep saying ..... laws that were passed 162 years ago ain't relevant in their content today!

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I dont really see what you mean.....the driver broke the law......unfortunately doing what is a common practice in many areas.

Of course the difference now is.....the people from these areas who want cabs.....probably wont get one until a cab is hired there.

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