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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:10 pm 
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How many cabs does your neighbouring authority have, can they cope with the influx, and as most as you say arrive in your manor all the cabs could be used
Have a word with the old bill and ask them if they have any objections preferably an inspector and explain that you have done it for years and are you free to carry on


I surprised you agree with it Skippy......you were recently crying like a girl about certain firms in your area operating across zones weren't you?

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Alas they are plated for both zones, but after the council consultation 2 weeks ago where 23 owners told the council to stop it immediately they agreed and said they wont be for much longer
zone are slightly different as they are all one area


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What then Sussex would you advise our next move should be as our licencing authority will not back us in any way,even though it was them who told us we could ply for hire there in the first place.

Write to the council saying no and ask on what basis they are saying no?

Sent them a copy of Young, and suggest they buy a copy of Button on Taxis from Amazon.

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What then Sussex would you advise our next move should be as our licencing authority will not back us in any way,even though it was them who told us we could ply for hire there in the first place.

Write to the council saying no and ask on what basis they are saying no?

Sent them a copy of Young, and suggest they buy a copy of Button on Taxis from Amazon.


Good Idea......then maybe tell them the name of the landowner and ask if they're selling alcohol, maybe we can get some of the licenses stopped :lol:

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Usually for these types of events part of the licensing process involves an assessment of how the organisers of the event are going to get folks away from the event when it ends.

If the promoter says he is using cabs from area A who have 500 cabs, rather than area B which has 24, then he has more chance of getting his license granted.

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skippy41 wrote:
How many cabs does your neighbouring authority have, can they cope with the influx, and as most as you say arrive in your manor all the cabs could be used
Have a word with the old bill and ask them if they have any objections preferably an inspector and explain that you have done it for years and are you free to carry on
What council is next door?? and is there taxi inspector seen at night, or over the weekends I would at a guess think not

Not to sure on the numbers but I would guess its a hell of a lot more than we have,the other guys operate approx 15 miles away in a fairly big town so they have to travel that distance hoping to get a fare whereas we are 2or3 mile away,their taxi officer would not be seen at any other time as the site is in the country side,the whole thing lasts about a week from when the first people arrive and the last one departs.Would the police have any say in something like this,to be honest I hardly saw any near the site the whole time it was on.


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Usually for these types of events part of the licensing process involves an assessment of how the organisers of the event are going to get folks away from the event when it ends.

If the promoter says he is using cabs from area A who have 500 cabs, rather than area B which has 24, then he has more chance of getting his license granted.

I understand what your saying but it still goes back to the original question of wether we are aloud to ply for hire on private land,the organisers took all their advise from the local authority that said we had no rights to be there because we were not licensed in that area.


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TONY THE TAXI wrote:
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Usually for these types of events part of the licensing process involves an assessment of how the organisers of the event are going to get folks away from the event when it ends.

If the promoter says he is using cabs from area A who have 500 cabs, rather than area B which has 24, then he has more chance of getting his license granted.

I understand what your saying but it still goes back to the original question of wether we are aloud to ply for hire on private land,the organisers took all their advise from the local authority that said we had no rights to be there because we were not licensed in that area.


If it is private land and the organiser says you are not allowed then I would sugest that he has every right to refuse you.

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The organisers allow us to drop people off on the land and also to pick people up who have booked us to do so but it was the LO of the local authority that said we could not ply for hire on the land because we were breaking the law,the organisers took all their advise from the local authority.


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TONY THE TAXI wrote:
the organisers took all their advise from the local authority.


Who do you sugest that they take advise from?

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TONY THE TAXI wrote:
I understand what your saying but it still goes back to the original question of wether we are aloud to ply for hire on private land,the organisers took all their advise from the local authority that said we had no rights to be there because we were not licensed in that area.

Then the local authority advised him wrongly.

Write to them and ask why they advised him the way they did when case law says otherwise.

Ask them if they have received legal advise over this.

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the organisers took all their advise from the local authority.


Who do you sugest that they take advise from?

The organiser should take note of what the licensing officer tells him, but if the licensing officer is wrong then he needs to be told.

That said if the nearest town is 15 miles away are the cabs in the district going to want to run that far for a 2 mile job?

Maybe the non-local fleet need to put up a big billboard with a phone number on, or sponsor the tickets. :wink:

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Is this the Great Malvern Country and Western festival? If it is then any advice now is no good for this year because the event has already started.

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I'm with the LA on this.

Its the first time I've written that type of statement for ages.

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Is this the Great Malvern Country and Western festival? If it is then any advice now is no good for this year because the event has already started.

No this was the BIG CHILL,allthough this was held last weekend we feel what the local LO told the organisers was wrong,as i,ve said before this advent as been going on now some 6 years ,this problem as never rissen before, the legal advise I have from past cases says,A VEHICLE LICENCED IN ONE AREA DOES NOT NEED A LICENCE FROM ANY OTHER AUTHORITY INTO WHOSE AREA IT IS DRIVEN OR IN WHICH IT SOLICITS OR ACCEPTS PASSENGERS FROM PRIVATE LAND.The frustrating part is that our LA will not back us against another LA,so we basically just dont know what to do as this will definately arise again.


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