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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:20 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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I think you'll find you won't be able to plate it at 10 years old.


quite so it seems

hence the LA saying "dont buy a 9 1/2 year old car"

The value of 9 year old taxis round here is about £300. A plate transfer and pit test are about £200.

So in theory you could buy, plate and pit a 9 year old taxi every year for 20 years (£10k) for less than the price of a new car that you could only keep on for 10 years !

Best of all the scrap value would be about £200, so if you got a cab that still had a years pit on it your car purchase cost would only be £100 p/a :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:33 pm 
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sasha wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
I think you'll find you won't be able to plate it at 10 years old.


quite so it seems

hence the LA saying "dont buy a 9 1/2 year old car"

The value of 9 year old taxis round here is about £300. A plate transfer and pit test are about £200.

So in theory you could buy, plate and pit a 9 year old taxi every year for 20 years (£10k) for less than the price of a new car that you could only keep on for 10 years !

Best of all the scrap value would be about £200, so if you got a cab that still had a years pit on it your car purchase cost would only be £100 p/a :lol:


what a wonderful way to trade....buying, driving and selling scrap cars

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:54 am 
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Mark 07 wrote:
In a rare moment of joined up thinking, Wirral M.B.C have finally realised that a privater hire car may not be totally shagged out on its eighth birthday and have now increased the age limit to ten years.

If I buy wisely I could get a decent car plated for about a £1000.


I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality but good luck and they changed the policy half way through last year so just think of how much you could have saved if you'd done it then. Don't forget when you buy your £1000 vehicle to make sure you change everything that could go wrong with it because at that age it will go wrong and as it will be your vehicle you will need to pay for it all yourself and it will involve time off the road. It's a bit harsh saying Marks cars are rebuilt, Cat C but I think there may be an element of truth in that. If you want a decent settle car you need to know where to go to get one :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:53 am 
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toots wrote:
Mark 07 wrote:
In a rare moment of joined up thinking, Wirral M.B.C have finally realised that a privater hire car may not be totally shagged out on its eighth birthday and have now increased the age limit to ten years.

If I buy wisely I could get a decent car plated for about a £1000.


I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality but good luck and they changed the policy half way through last year so just think of how much you could have saved if you'd done it then. Don't forget when you buy your £1000 vehicle to make sure you change everything that could go wrong with it because at that age it will go wrong and as it will be your vehicle you will need to pay for it all yourself and it will involve time off the road. It's a bit harsh saying Marks cars are rebuilt, Cat C but I think there may be an element of truth in that. If you want a decent settle car you need to know where to go to get one :wink:


Fortunately I'm pretty handy with the spanners and have a workshop unit due to having a former car sales pitch. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:21 pm 
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Mark 07 wrote:
toots wrote:
Mark 07 wrote:
In a rare moment of joined up thinking, Wirral M.B.C have finally realised that a privater hire car may not be totally shagged out on its eighth birthday and have now increased the age limit to ten years.

If I buy wisely I could get a decent car plated for about a £1000.


I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality but good luck and they changed the policy half way through last year so just think of how much you could have saved if you'd done it then. Don't forget when you buy your £1000 vehicle to make sure you change everything that could go wrong with it because at that age it will go wrong and as it will be your vehicle you will need to pay for it all yourself and it will involve time off the road. It's a bit harsh saying Marks cars are rebuilt, Cat C but I think there may be an element of truth in that. If you want a decent settle car you need to know where to go to get one :wink:


Fortunately I'm pretty handy with the spanners and have a workshop unit due to having a former car sales pitch. :wink:


but do you want a car thats off the road one week in three?

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:54 pm 
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toots wrote:
I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality

Well my 8 year old Mondeo with 400k+ miles on the clock is. No dents or scratches (the pit test wont allow any), the interiors spotless, no tears or rips in the upholstery or carpets and all the mechanicals are fine - mostly due to regular maintanence and 6 monthly pit tests.

Yet it's only worth £300, maybe £500 if I sold it as a taxi already pitted with equipment fitted. There's someone on the fleet selling their '55 plate octy for £1500, they take great pride in it and looking at it you'd think it had just come off the production line. And yet there are 2 yr old cabs that look absolute sheds.


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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:47 am 
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sasha wrote:
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I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality

Well my 8 year old Mondeo with 400k+ miles on the clock is. No dents or scratches (the pit test wont allow any), the interiors spotless, no tears or rips in the upholstery or carpets and all the mechanicals are fine - mostly due to regular maintanence and 6 monthly pit tests.

Yet it's only worth £300, maybe £500 if I sold it as a taxi already pitted with equipment fitted. There's someone on the fleet selling their '55 plate octy for £1500, they take great pride in it and looking at it you'd think it had just come off the production line. And yet there are 2 yr old cabs that look absolute sheds.



Yep, each vehicle should be treated on its own merits

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:05 am 
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captain cab wrote:
sasha wrote:
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I don't think the words 'decent' and '£1000' are a reality

Well my 8 year old Mondeo with 400k+ miles on the clock is. No dents or scratches (the pit test wont allow any), the interiors spotless, no tears or rips in the upholstery or carpets and all the mechanicals are fine - mostly due to regular maintanence and 6 monthly pit tests.

Yet it's only worth £300, maybe £500 if I sold it as a taxi already pitted with equipment fitted. There's someone on the fleet selling their '55 plate octy for £1500, they take great pride in it and looking at it you'd think it had just come off the production line. And yet there are 2 yr old cabs that look absolute sheds.



Yep, each vehicle should be treated on its own merits


many LA's do but hit them with three plates/tests a year as a punishment

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:52 am 
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Wannabe wrote:
many LA's do but hit them with three plates/tests a year as a punishment


I don't think it's as a punishment

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
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toots wrote:
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many LA's do but hit them with three plates/tests a year as a punishment


I don't think it's as a punishment


if the extra tests were free it wouldnt but at £80 a time it does

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:29 pm 
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toots wrote:
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many LA's do but hit them with three plates/tests a year as a punishment


I don't think it's as a punishment

I see it as an encouragement to buy newer vehicles. If you want to use older vehicles then fine but testing should be more frequent.

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grandad wrote:
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Wannabe wrote:
many LA's do but hit them with three plates/tests a year as a punishment


I don't think it's as a punishment

I see it as an encouragement to buy newer vehicles. If you want to use older vehicles then fine but testing should be more frequent.


so a 3 year old 150,000 mile car gets 1 test a year and a 5 year old 60,000 mile car gets three...

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:26 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:

so a 3 year old 150,000 mile car gets 1 test a year and a 5 year old 60,000 mile car gets three...
Apart from your LA everyone else goes on older cars being worn more than newer cars.

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:

so a 3 year old 150,000 mile car gets 1 test a year and a 5 year old 60,000 mile car gets three...
Apart from your LA everyone else goes on older cars being worn more than newer cars.


isnt each car an individual case?

maybe an annual test AND 1 every 50,000 would work

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 Post subject: Re: Wirral PHV age limit
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:40 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:

isnt each car an individual case?


No, They are subject to the council policy.

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