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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:32 am 
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x-ray wrote:
Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ?



We've got them round here. they'll get a WAV plate but then hit the doctors and ask them for an exemption certificate for a bad back.

It needs stopping ASAP. If they aren't fit to do the job they shouldn't be doing it.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:09 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
show me where

Well I had wade through your Councils requirements, thought it was barking (and I don't mean the London Borough), have to admit though that you do not have to assist the Wheelchair bound in your LA.

I am not sure if it is covered in the 2010 Dis Dis Act, I think not. So if you get a wheelchair passenger, assist with any luggage then feel free to watch the bugger struggle.

This made me laugh....

Council’s Vehicle Licensing Criteria
All vehicles presented for licensing as hackney carriages must be purpose built
wheelchair accessible London type cabs which comply with the specifications of the
Public Carriage Office of the Metropolitan Police. At the present time only two types
of vehicle comply with this specification.

1. The Tamworth built Metro-Cab with up to six passenger seats
or
2. The Coventry built Fairway Cab produced by LTI Limited Carbodies
Note All Metro Cabs, and all Fairway Cabs produced after the 1 February 1989,
are constructed to be wheelchair accessible. Fairway Cabs which were
constructed before that date will be acceptable for licensing if they were
originally constructed to be wheelchair accessible or if they have been
converted by an authorised company that have carried out the conversion
to comply with the requirements of the Public Carriage Office and there is
produced a certificate confirming compliance with these requirements.


Nice to see Tamworth keep their documentation up to date.


As you say. that doesnt state the driver should load the WAV though does it, and BTW, they have many E7's plates and Vito's and also......im not plated by Tamworth

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:10 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:

Thats doesnt state the driver should load the WAV though does it, and BTW, they have many E7's plates and Vito's and also......im not plated by Tamworth


the equality act does though doesn't it?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:19 pm 
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Equality Act 2010 - Duties on Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Drivers


The Equality Act 2010 includes provisions relating specifically to Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles and disability.

The information below provides details of the provisions that are currently in place in relation to Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles, and what the implications are for Hackney Carriage and Private Hire vehicle drivers; and details of the further measures that are due to be implemented at a future date yet to be determined. In effect 2 duties are placed on drivers:

1) To assist passengers in wheelchairs (if you drive a wheelchair accessible vehicle); and
2) To carry guide dogs / assistance dogs.

Duties on drivers to assist passengers in wheelchairs

The Equality Act places duties on the drivers of designated wheelchair accessible Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles to provide physical assistance to passengers in wheelchairs.

The duties apply to the driver of any wheelchair accessible Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles which are on the licensing authority’s list of "designated vehicles". Oxford City Council will be maintaining a list of designated vehicles (in effect this is all Hackney Carriage Vehicles licensed by the Council) and therefore the following duties will apply to you.

The duties being placed on the drivers of designated wheelchair accessible Hackney Carriages and Private Hire vehicles are (under Section 165 of The Equalities Act 2010):

•To carry the passenger while in a wheelchair
•Not to make any additional charge for doing so
•If the passenger chooses to sit in a passenger seat, to carry the wheelchair
•To take such steps as are necessary to ensure that the passenger is carried in safety and reasonable comfort; and
•To give the passenger such "mobility assistance" as is reasonably required.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:41 pm 
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•To carry the passenger while in a wheelchair - not a problem

•Not to make any additional charge for doing so - not a problem

•If the passenger chooses to sit in a passenger seat, to carry the wheelchair - not a problem

•To take such steps as are necessary to ensure that the passenger is carried in safety and reasonable comfort - not a problem


•To give the passenger such "mobility assistance" as is reasonably required. - wide open to interpretation

who has a definition of "Mobility assistance"?

going back to the original question, if a disabled person was refused a badge as he would be driving a WAV, wouldnt that be discrimination?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:32 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
going back to the original question, if a disabled person was refused a badge as he would be driving a WAV, wouldnt that be discrimination?


yes

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