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Thanks Sussex, i think that clears that up for me, am i right then in saying that they are basicly operating under the so called 7 day contract, as this is how some of the limos are operating, but its very grey indeed, and as far as i can see from our side all this is being stopped very soon, so surely this must be the case for the pink ladies also, or at least i hope so :roll:

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am i right then in saying that they are basicly operating under the so called 7 day contract.

JD will know a tad more, but I think that's what they are trying to do.

The exemption could be used for a one band man quite easily, but that's ok if you only do one job a week, as the one vehicle one contract issue applies.

But if you want to run a fleet, then I really can't see how that will happen. Or be allowed to happen. :wink:

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There might (only might) be a piece in the sun tomorrow :wink: I know its a waste of 35p if its not in though :sad:


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smiffyz (geoff) wrote:
There might (only might) be a piece in the sun tomorrow :wink: I know its a waste of 35p if its not in though :sad:


This thread discussed pink ladies, in fact we have several threads on the subject. They are becoming quite popular. lol.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... sc&start=0

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This was passed on to me this morning, it's a reply to someone's question on safety:



"Someone asked em for me how safe they were. they're going to go 3 years without a car check (atleast 150,000 miles?)"


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We are operating under written contract pursuant to section 75(1)(b) of the Local Govt (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, as we are a completely different service in every way - I will not go into details of our differences, as they start with the company structure, members, contracts, method of payment, and end with our drivers/cars. Our cars are all brand new, sold at three years, prior to the requirement for MOT, insured under a policy which covers members, passengers, drivers, vehicles and other parties, and our drivers are enhanced CRB checked, and have medicals. We are not stating that there is an issue with the majority of PH Licensed drivers, we are offering our members a service that they have opted in to receive.


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Section 75 (1) (b)

[Saving for certain vehicles etc, Nothing in this part of this act shall.....

apply to a vehicle used only for carrying passengers for hire or reward under a contract for the hire of the vehicle for a period of not less than seven days]

It does look like a grey area in so far as a member pays a pound for a years membership, then they looking at it as if that member has hired the vehicle for the year which isnt less than 7 days so therefore they comply with the act.
But they do for instance 50 jobs per day per vehicle and each job is for a different individual member. So it's whether a court would look at it as a single booking which it obviously isnt.

The trouble for them is the publicity this is reciving will damage their buisness beyond repair. Drivers will be stopping when a pink Lady is dropping off and pointing out to the customer getting out that they've been driven in an unlicenced vehicle, hopefully Pink ladies will then take an individual to court for slander or whatever then the court will decide the outcome.
But ive a feeling that Warrington LA will do something about it before then as feeling among all hac and PH are running high at the moment and theres a big meeting next week for all drivers.


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I wish them luck :)

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smiffyz (geoff) wrote:
The trouble for them is the publicity this is receiving will damage their buisness beyond repair. Drivers will be stopping when a pink Lady is dropping off and pointing out to the customer getting out that they've been driven in an unlicenced vehicle, hopefully Pink ladies will then take an individual to court for slander or whatever then the court will decide the outcome.

Exactly, the more punters know about the iffy side of the pinkies the better.

But why don't they just get PH licensed? :?

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Must be a money saving exercise they dont do a lot of work by the look of it. and a test is £300pa here.
This is a time when PH and Hac's need to join together and put pressure on the LO.
It shoots a big hole in they're publicity campaign regarding the safety of passengers etc "we wont rape you but we will carry you in an illegal car"!!


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they are selling the idea.

so if you want to sell to more areas you have to make easy for anyone to buy and start workthat week not wait 3 months while drivers get there lic and cars are tested. but leaves it open to any perv buying in (cash is cash)

one thing not been said in warrington they have op lic to take work they should give the work to plated cars but as they now have uplated cars doing the work they should give up the op lic or retest the ones out of test one way another they cant have both or else everyone would retest some cars when they feel like it (aslong as the passengers are members of there PINK club :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )

they knew nothing about the trade before they started (apart from woman have been attacked in the past by a male in a car stopped in the street that they daftly get into)
and they know nothing now

the PCO could of saved a lot of paperwork and told all the private hire drivers dont bother with this new badge just become a club any muppet can drive in a club


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Don't know what happening out in provincial land, but here in the capital, the Pink Lady's kangoo's have all been licensed as Minicabs by the PCO.


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I think that's how they started in the provinces as well, but it seems that they have found some of the licensing regimes a bit onerous, so are now trying to find a loophole.

Which suggest to me that the Pink Ladies concept isn't working too well.

But we did say that it would end in tears.

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Don't know what happening out in provincial land, but here in the capital, the Pink Lady's kangoo's have all been licensed as Minicabs by the PCO.

The London act doesn't (now) have a daft exemption, and what they did put in it was soon removed following pressure from the LPH trade. :wink:

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May I suggest that when discussing issues like this we ensure our terminology is correct. PH are not minicabs, they are PH. Minicabs although acknowledged within the GLA Act 1998 are not subject to the same restraints or benefits??????? as PH.


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jeff daggers wrote:
May I suggest that when discussing issues like this we ensure our terminology is correct. PH are not minicabs, they are PH. Minicabs although acknowledged within the GLA Act 1998 are not subject to the same restraints or benefits??????? as PH.

I couldn't agree more. =D>

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