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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:09 pm 
Well thanks to the kind person who sent me the latest edition of CTN because I have been waiting with baited breath for the real explanation as to why restricted numbers were introduced, since it clearly has nothing to do with the self-interest of the trade.

Except that there is no explanation given in the article, which says it all!

Perhaps someone will answer one question - if the lads in Gateshead earning £2.60 an hour (and if you believe that you'll believe anything) manage to get numbers restricted, on leaving the trade will they:

a) hand back their plate to the council
b) transfer it to someone else for zilch
c) sell it at the going rate

Experience elsewhere suggests that the answer would be (c) ie feathered nests, pure and simple.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:28 pm 
Do you see the front page?
I would have thought the other southern lad would have had something to say about that. :shock:
I work in Brighton and it aint nothing like as good as the article says.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:05 pm 
Edmund Burke II wrote:
Well thanks to the kind person who sent me the latest edition of CTN because I have been waiting with baited breath for the real explanation as to why restricted numbers were introduced, since it clearly has nothing to do with the self-interest of the trade.

Except that there is no explanation given in the article, which says it all!

Perhaps someone will answer one question - if the lads in Gateshead earning £2.60 an hour (and if you believe that you'll believe anything)


Those lads in Gateshead must be envious of these fellas in Bath, when they read this.

http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/Environmental ... -Fares.htm

Don't let Nigel see it either, it might give him nightmares.

Best wishes

JD


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:07 pm 
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"John"
What a lofty position you are in. You and only you can see that the truth of things, but then again I suppose that is because we are all thick.
I see you that you boast of telling "it like it is" so pray tell who exactly is "John Davies" the beacon of truth in the Manchester cab trade? My name is always attached to any of my ramblings and you can then ask my thick colleagues if they know me and am I being consistant. If I ask the same about you all I get is "sorry never heard of him". How can this be? surely a paragon of veracity, wisdom and all round good guy would be a cause celebre around the town. If you are using a nom de plume all well and good but please let us not kid people that you are not afraid to put your real name to any pungent criticism of your fellow drivers because that apparently is not the case.
Fraternally
Ged May


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:29 am 
Ged May wrote:
"John"
What a lofty position you are in. You and only you can see that the truth of things, but then again I suppose that is because we are all thick.


"Managed growth" or "Managed restrictions" which is it?

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I see you that you boast of telling "it like it is" so pray tell who exactly is "John Davies" the beacon of truth in the Manchester cab trade?


Doesn't really matter who am I does it? I don't go around asking who Gedmay is or any other tom dick or harry for matter. You must have a real penchant to know who John Davies is lol

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My name is always attached to any of my ramblings and you can then ask my thick colleagues if they know me and am I being consistant. If I ask the same about you all I get is "sorry never heard of him".


My name is also always attached to my ramblings and you are quite at liberty to debate any point that I or anyone else has raised but I'm mystified as to why you should want me to ask your colleagues for a second opinion. I am quite capable of determining a persons consistency without reverting to a second opinion. I must intrigue you in some way seeing as it bothers you who John Davies is? Just how many people have you asked lol

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How can this be? surely a paragon of veracity, wisdom and all round good guy would be a cause celebre around the town. If you are using a nom de plume all well and good but please let us not kid people that you are not afraid to put your real name to any pungent criticism of your fellow drivers because that apparently is not the case.


Fortunately I have never said I am any of those things but if thats how you see me then you must have a reason for thinking it. Everything I write in this forum is open to challenge and the facts are always there to be researched. I will be the first to admit that I don't always get it right and nor does anyone else but that's just human nature I guess.

With regard pungent criticism you are quite at liberty to criticise me as much as you want.

My reference to the word thick came about through a discussion I had quite recently with a very high profile member of our trade who works up at the Airport, you will know him as will almost everybody else. We were discussing certain aspects of the Taxi trade here in Manchester at his home and he said to me "the majority of Cabbies are thick" He was very sincere in what he said and he meant every word but from that day to this it has played on my mind. I wouldn't go as far as him and say most cabies are thick but I would say that some are more knowledgable than others in certain fields.

However in this instance, in my humble opinion anyone who comes out with the tripe that Managed Growth is not a substitute for restricted growth is not only thick but utterly stupid. That's in my opinion of course but I'm sure your view and many like you will be the complete opposite. But thats up for debate isn't it.

Best wishes.

JD


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:40 pm 
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Well done, if you could be bothered to read my ramblings in the past I have on many occasions stated my position to be for a single tier system, free at the point of entry with the only criteria being the highest quality not the ability to pay.
As you may also have noticed that none of my postings have been critical or of the name calling type and I object to anybody (real or imaginary) calling my colleagues thick. You back track from your original missive by saying that is not your opinion but somebody elses that you are merely passing on.
Finally, old bean, if you cannot be bothered finding out who I am how can you say that I am thick and there are others like me. There are many things that I have called in the past but from memory thick is not one of them.
So carry on standing up to be counted, a truly noble sentiment, somewhat clouded by anonymity.
Even more fraternally,
Ged


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:25 am 
Ged May wrote:
Well done, if you could be bothered to read my ramblings in the past I have on many occasions stated my position to be for a single tier system, free at the point of entry with the only criteria being the highest quality not the ability to pay.
As you may also have noticed that none of my postings have been critical or of the name calling type and I object to anybody (real or imaginary) calling my colleagues thick. You back track from your original missive by saying that is not your opinion but somebody elses that you are merely passing on.


I don't back track from anything, I was merely pointing out that a close friend of mine suggested most Cab drivers are thick. He works with you at the Airport and believe it or not he has a far higher intellect than I, which I suppose is not saying much lol.

I won't give you any information about him because it would undoubtedly expose him, which he doesn't deserve. However, he is a great guy and he has done a lot for the trade and has asked nothing in return. I was merely pointing out that the word "thick" is sometimes appropriate in certain circumstances.

I nailed my colours to the mast and they are there to be shot down. But don't ever say to me that Manchester has managed growth because you probably haven't a clue as to how it came about.

We fought for years to have no cabs on this town and we only succumbed because the council presented us with an ultimatum. That's the reality of the situation. We had to bite the bullet and face reality, either we got deregulation or we could agree to a thousand cabs on the town. The rest is history.

So before you start talking about managed growth research the facts and the background to it and make sure you ask the right people.

You may also wish to ask my colleagues up at the Airport, "why they have been running around like headless chickens for the last 18 months" [edited by admin] around with airportcarz. It took a simpleton like to me to inform them that Airportcarz can have ten percent of their vehicles as 8 seaters.

Does thick Cabbies spring to mind? One more point, you have been very vocal about Airportcarz but what contribution have you ever made. All we ever here is moan and groan, its about time you got some leadership up there. When you have committee members who cant be azzed to pay their 30 quid and more than half the permit holders at the Airport cant be azzed to contribute its no wonder that there's no cohesion.

Best wishes

JD


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:59 pm 
"john",
You are getting rather abusive. Why in heavens name do you keep banging on about managed growth? Have I mentioned it? This is getting rather parochial so I think enough is enough don't you?
Ged


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