Taxi Driver Online

I guess that's something you can raise when you appear in front of the judge

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

He has a point though the old bill should have stopped him from proceeding and got a proper cab for the punters

I don't disagree - nobody has - but the point is he was still charged with no insurance, my guess is the chap will get convicted and the copper will get a slap

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

It still makes me wonder why he was stopped in the first place. He may be lucky there wasn't an accident, that way he would have found out the very expensive way what no insurance means. Normally old bill offer your car an expensive lift home via the car pound if you're caught with no insurance.

it might just have been a very efficient stop and check operation......maybe

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

aint payback a bitch!

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

Because like you, they know nothing about taxi licensing laws.

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IDFIMH

Think he's looking for someone to blow sunshine up his @rse

Now what he did was illegal.

Either he knew it was illegal - which he should have.
That makes him a chancer.

Or he didn't know it was illegal - ignorance of the law is no defence.
That makes him a fool.

Either way, he's screwed.

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Think your getting the wrong end of the stick it is not illegal to pick two people up from a airport if you only have social domestic pleasure insurance as long as you are not charging
Hence thats why the police let me continue on my way
My question is if i am ok to travel on my way after i was reported with no insurance how can i be reported

It may very well be the case that the officer was not altogether familiar with the law relating to Taxis/P.H. The chances are that he has gone back to his station and found out/realised that a taxi is always a taxi and what you did was illegal, he has on that basis issued you with the charge. Unfortunately as such you did not have family/close friends in your vehicle that might have strengthened your case.

You know as well as I do that although you are apparently not charging these people - you would at some time in the future expect to gain "Financially" from your favour. As others have alluded..........you would be seeking a pecuniary advantage.

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In my opinion, the punters had ordered a licensed vehicle to pick them up and an unlicensed vehicle was used therfore an offense has been committed.
Obviously I don't know the full details in this particular case but around here if we assume that the punters were taken to the airport on the way out and this was the return, they would have paid for the return on the outward journey.

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Grandad,

Hi
No where we work you pay for each trip as we do it nothing in advance
I don't believe the policeman doesn't know the ph laws
And again you all keep saying its illegal to carry any passengers in the vehicle in question but i have checked and i am allowed to carry friends or people i know as long as no money changes hands different boroughs have different rules i would think so the police were right to let me continue on my way but not to report me
We all know if you haven't got insurance then your vehicle is impounded and my passengers would have had to find alternative means to get home
If i have to go to court then i think the first thing i have to bring up is how can you be reported for no insurance then straight after told you can continue on your journey

there's no doubt you're right - let us know how you get on in court

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I suggest you read the link to the court case I posted earlier. The local ph laws have nothing to do with it; they cannot override the High court judgement given in the St.Albans case. That the policeman doesn't know the ph laws doesn't surprise any of us, they are not specialists in that field of law, and that you have been left to continue with your journey is a result for you and your passengers.

You can indeed carry friends and relatives in your car providing it is not in connection with any trade or business. As soon as you carry ph passengers whether they have paid a fare or not is irrelevant. You are then using the vehicle in connection with your trade or business. I suggest you also read the case of Sikondar which you will find in the court case section on here.

That case involved someone in the west midlands who regularly used his 8 seater to take friends kids to school for money. He was deemed to have used the car as an unlicenced ph; the use was outside the normal "social and domestic and personal pleasure use", beyond an act of social kindness to quote the judge. It was in connection with what was in effect a business.

You want advice, you've been given some good advice on here and you can refer to the case quoted if you care to read the legal court cases section. Also try Rout-v-Swallow Hotels which you will also find in the legal section. What you did was wrong regardless of what the copper, your boss or you may say.

Here is a simple question for you to answer.
Did the people that you carried book a licensed vehicle to pick them up from the airport?
It is a simple question requiring a simple yes or no answer. from your first post it seems obvious that they had booked a licensed vehicle now that being the case if you picked them up in an unlicensed vehicle you committed an offence. It is that simple.
As for the police knowing PH laws, you are having a laugh. It is just my opinion but the officer knew that you had committed an offence but he wasn't sure exactly what you had done wrong. So he told you that you would be reported for the insurance offence but allowed you to carry on your journey so that things could be checked out without inconveniencing the people in the car.
Now let us assume that the people in your car had booked this journey through your private Hire operating office. It is a legal requirement for the office to keep a record of which vehicle and driver did the job. What do the office records show for this journey? If they show a different vehicle to the one that was used then your council will be asking questions. If any records have been changed to hide the fact that the job was done in an unlicensed vehicle then not only will you probably lose your PH drivers badge but the office could have the operators license revoked.
Now obviously I don't know who the operator is but if it is you or your dad then you will probably already have altered the documentation, which is another offence, but if it is someone outside your family, they would be stupid to change their records to try and cover up your crime.
You know very well that you have committed a crime and you are just trying to justify your actions. You may convince yourself that everything is OK but everyone on here who has commented has said the same. Now do you really think that you are right and everyone else is wrong?

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Grandad,