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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:06 pm 
The problem we have Simon is that we could then be done for tress-pass.

But didn't some mini-cab firm have to change their web-site because it advertised Taxis?


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 Post subject: Licensing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:53 pm 
First time on this, so go easy with me, please.

As I understand this licensing, is, it really depends on where you are in the country, doesn't it?

Or am I really that nieve?

It would appear, for example that there are certain councils that do not require plates to be put onto certain vehicles. And this criteria varies from council to council. Or have I been lied to, by drivers flaunting the law?

It would appear these vehicles do not only come under the catagory of wedding vehicles. They can also, if the individual council allows, let these catagories apply to, for example, private hire vehicles that only do corporate work for one or two prebooked account customers.

Or are these truley the illegal one man bands who are flaunting the law?

I do an awful lot of work at Airports, and as a small operator, am In no doubt, whatsoever what my licensing authority require, by law, and do object to being told, it is ok to give me work, i am complying with the regulations, they are just different to ours in your licening authority. But that's ok isn't it?

By the way I am licensed in London, and It did not matter a while ago, but it does now, that's for sure, even leave an i undotted at the moment and you are for the high jump, that is for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Licensing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:36 pm 
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As I understand this licensing, is, it really depends on where you are in the country, doesn't it?

Or am I really that nieve?

No you're not naive, there are about 400 councils in the UK, and about 401 different sets of rules. Maybe they might get a bit standardised next year with proper DfT guidance, or maybe they wont.

I think only one or two councils outside of London don't have fixed plates on the back of there vehicles. As for wedding/funeral/contracted vehicles, well it's a mess outside of London, although they seem to be looking at this issue inside of it.

But anyway, welcome to the licensed trade. Your just love it. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:39 pm 
Excuse my ignorance. These large PSV firms who are allowed to operate 10% of their vehicles as unlicensed small PSV/PH. Surely they are only allowed to operate from a set designated point to a final destination???

i.e. like a bus route picking up and dropping off at fixed times, or every 15 mins.

A customer simply can't ring up the PSV firm and book these vehicles to pick them up and take them anywhere???


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:26 pm 
Hi

This is just another example of the governments left hand not knowing what its right hand is doing, (right hand being the words to take note of here) and yet again us hard working honest people suffering.

Too many rules they do not even know themselves which is right or wrong.

Can you adam and eve it? I have just had some fat b***td that stunk to high heven in my office for the past four hours from the PCO spouting on about illegal insurance policies, wrong information on documents, and a whole range of other c***p. I am complying to the letter with the regulations and we run a proper outfit. Good job I did not do what I wanted to, which was knock him out!!

On a Friday afternoon for god's sake.

Another fool


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Well let's all hope they are giving grief to those in the London trade that aren't doing it right. :roll:

The thousands of illegal touts would be a good start.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:29 pm 
It would appear not.

The reason for this is they have no enforcement powers.

They can only highlight where the problems are. Quite frankly they do not even see fit to do that. They do not want to get involved.

So that is why us honest operators have to put up with this s**t on a friday afternoon as these stupid B****d's have nothing better to do.

They can not tackle the touts, so they are trying to put the operators who are doing it properly out of business.

You would not adam and eve the jackonory this p**t came out with today about what he wants to see, none of which was in the legislation.

When tackled about this he said it has changed, I said nobody told me he said, I am telling you now.

Nearly hit the Hitler. No offense to the hitler on here by the way.

Another fool


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I would just ask him to point out the changes.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:29 pm 
Hi Alex

Yes I agree this would be the simplist solution, but the changes have not been laid down in legislation. It would appear these people are making it up as they go along.

I do not believe that any licensing authority can implement changes to legislation by word of mouth, with no new statute, nor should they be allowed to get away with it.

I am not the only one who is experiencing this bull, and we are not going to put up with it.

Who do these people think they are, what are they like?

another fool.

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Still don't know what I have to complain about when all that crazy behaviour is going on in Russsia. I must be mad 100 of dead children, certainly puts things into perspective.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:33 am 
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Excuse my ignorance. These large PSV firms who are allowed to operate 10% of their vehicles as unlicensed small PSV/PH. Surely they are only allowed to operate from a set designated point to a final destination???

i.e. like a bus route picking up and dropping off at fixed times, or every 15 mins.

A customer simply can't ring up the PSV firm and book these vehicles to pick them up and take them anywhere???


All your questions about buses can be answered by writing or phoning the address below. You may wish to ask them about flexible routed local bus services. You may also wish to look at the links below on response information on Flexible Transport, as highlighted by the DFT.

North West Traffic area office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF

Telephone:0113 254 3292

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... sp#P16_737

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... p#P41_7808

Go and read this and familiarise yourself with the changing world. If you belong to a local Taxi association then your chairman should be able to supply the answers you're looking for.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... 503970.pdf

There are several types of services a bus operator can run and because of the simplicity of RIA orders they are getting more flexible each day.

Read this and take particular note of the very last line.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... #TopOfPage

North West Traffic area office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF

Telephone:0113 254 3292

Best wishes

John Davies


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:20 pm 
John Davies wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Excuse my ignorance. These large PSV firms who are allowed to operate 10% of their vehicles as unlicensed small PSV/PH. Surely they are only allowed to operate from a set designated point to a final destination???

i.e. like a bus route picking up and dropping off at fixed times, or every 15 mins.

A customer simply can't ring up the PSV firm and book these vehicles to pick them up and take them anywhere???


All your questions about buses can be answered by writing or phoning the address below. You may wish to ask them about flexible routed local bus services. You may also wish to look at the links below on response information on Flexible Transport, as highlighted by the DFT.

North West Traffic area office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF

Telephone:0113 254 3292

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... sp#P16_737

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... p#P41_7808

Go and read this and familiarise yourself with the changing world. If you belong to a local Taxi association then your chairman should be able to supply the answers you're looking for.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... 503970.pdf

There are several types of services a bus operator can run and because of the simplicity of RIA orders they are getting more flexible each day.

Read this and take particular note of the very last line.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... #TopOfPage

North West Traffic area office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF

Telephone:0113 254 3292

Best wishes

John Davies


What a ridiculous piece of legislation. There seems to be no vetting of the drivers used or any CRB check. The onus is on the PSV Operator to ensure the driver is a fit and proper driver.

Another grey area where the usage of stretched limo's will be abused as well, I'm sure.

Makes a mockery of PSV and HC licensing.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:07 pm 
no you are not wrong, it is the law that is, it is so inconsistant nobody really knows where they stand, except the ones who want to flaunt it, they know exactly how.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:06 pm 
Down in Brighton the local union man is running non taxi/PH/busPSV minibuses for his school runs.

No CRB for the driver, no council test for the motor, no nothing. They even had a bloke who failed his medical drive one the other day.

And he is the Chairman of the local T&G. :sad:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:16 pm 
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Down in Brighton the local union man is running non taxi/PH/busPSV minibuses for his school runs.

No CRB for the driver, no council test for the motor, no nothing. They even had a bloke who failed his medical drive one the other day.

And he is the Chairman of the local T&G. :sad:

Somethings just never change. Do as I say, not as I do.

I wonder if the busman will mention that in his rag.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:00 pm 
Anonymous wrote:

Another grey area where the usage of stretched limo's will be abused as well, I'm sure.

Makes a mockery of PSV and HC licensing.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Stretch Limos are slowly being brought into line with current legislation. Manchester is currently drafting rules for eight seater limos who basicaly have to be licensed as Private hire vehicles.

Best wishes

JD


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