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Brummie Cabbie
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We have this with Liverpool they don't like us going there to collect passengers who book us. We're their local taxi company it's returning to where they live and lets face it given a choice of £30.00 to go through a tunnel 2 miles long or phoning for a taxi to come from another area to get you and take you to your door for half that fare I know what I'd do.


If you are PH working in an adjacent LA and you as a driver, your vehicle & your operator/office are all licensed by that adjacent LA, then I don't see that you are doing anything wrong.

If you are HC licensed in a different LA to the LA that licenses your operator/office, or if your office does not have an operators licence because only Hackneys operate/work on that dispatch system, then you have a Berwick situation.

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Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.


It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason.


I have never understood the argument about better safety in a PH. I, like most HC drivers, started in PH & I just could not get my HC badge quickly enough to get that protective screen between me & the passengers.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.


It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason


question... would you want to be working in the same firm with a driver or drivers that where licensed in another area..... which meant that your licensing authority had no control over them... but had control over you....


Our council doesn't allow vehicles licenced in another area to work for companies licenced in our area. You have to be licenced by our council to work our firms so it wouldn't happen. Having said that it wouldn't make an ounce of diffence to me because it would be just another driver on our system and it wouldn't matter where they came from because if our company wants another driver they'll take on another driver they don't care about us.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.
now there is the difference,

It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason.


I have never understood the argument about better safety in a PH. I, like most HC drivers, started in PH & I just could not get my HC badge quickly enough to get that protective screen between me & the passengers.
now there is the difference, I always found that the screen got in the way of me getting at the passengers :lol:

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.


It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason.


I have never understood the argument about better safety in a PH. I, like most HC drivers, started in PH & I just could not get my HC badge quickly enough to get that protective screen between me & the passengers.


Segragation causes it's own problems. Touch wood I've never had a problem with the person sat next to me but I suppose it's only a matter of time and a case of 'there for the grace of god goes I'. If I were to have a HC I would have to work with a radio so I could call for help if I needed to and it's that aspect of safety that appeals to me.

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toots wrote:
MR T wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.


It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason


question... would you want to be working in the same firm with a driver or drivers that where licensed in another area..... which meant that your licensing authority had no control over them... but had control over you....


Our council doesn't allow vehicles licenced in another area to work for companies licenced in our area. You have to be licenced by our council to work our firms so it wouldn't happen. Having said that it wouldn't make an ounce of diffence to me because it would be just another driver on our system and it wouldn't matter where they came from because if our company wants another driver they'll take on another driver they don't care about us.
So you would be quite happy with your vehicle being checked by your council... and their's being exempt...

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Our council doesn't allow vehicles licenced in another area to work for companies licenced in our area. You have to be licenced by our council to work our firms so it wouldn't happen. Having said that it wouldn't make an ounce of diffence to me because it would be just another driver on our system and it wouldn't matter where they came from because if our company wants another driver they'll take on another driver they don't care about us.


I would like to see what your council would do if there was a pure Berwick situation in your LA.

My guess is that they couldn't do anything at all, otherwise Newcastle LA would have done something by now to stop the situation there.

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MR T wrote:
toots wrote:
MR T wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but can someboby explain what the problem is here apart from the obvious of HC yet again working PH systems


Nothing stopping HCs working PH systems.


I know there's nothing stopping them I share a system with 87 of them but if you want to be PH then be a PH why be both could it be 'having your cake an eatin it'


And the same could be said vica-versa. Why be PH only when HC gives better utilisation of the vehicle & therefore a better service (by that vehicle) to the public.


It's a matter of personal choice I feel safer working PH than I would working HC. Also not all members of the public like HC vehicles for whatever reason


question... would you want to be working in the same firm with a driver or drivers that where licensed in another area..... which meant that your licensing authority had no control over them... but had control over you....


Our council doesn't allow vehicles licenced in another area to work for companies licenced in our area. You have to be licenced by our council to work our firms so it wouldn't happen. Having said that it wouldn't make an ounce of diffence to me because it would be just another driver on our system and it wouldn't matter where they came from because if our company wants another driver they'll take on another driver they don't care about us.
So you would be quite happy with your vehicle being checked by your council... and there's being exempt...


Their vehicle would be checked by their council. Does it matter which council checks the vehicle so long as it's checked and it's safe. Could this be a good reason for across the country standard regs.

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If I were to have a HC I would have to work with a radio so I could call for help if I needed to and it's that aspect of safety that appeals to me.


Me too. Wouldn't EVER let go of my dispatch system.

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When was the last time you saw a Berwick licensing officer .. and not being funny.... do you know where Berwick is :wink:

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Our council doesn't allow vehicles licenced in another area to work for companies licenced in our area. You have to be licenced by our council to work our firms so it wouldn't happen. Having said that it wouldn't make an ounce of diffence to me because it would be just another driver on our system and it wouldn't matter where they came from because if our company wants another driver they'll take on another driver they don't care about us.


I would like to see what your council would do if there was a pure Berwick situation in your LA.

My guess is that they couldn't do anything at all, otherwise Newcastle LA would have done something by now to stop the situation there.


I still haven't got my head around the Berwick situation but from what I can gather it involves HC taking bookings outside their area of Licencing and if prebooked by phone is as far as I know perfectly legal or working for companies that are licenced in another area to that of the HC and to be honest I didn't think you could do that.

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When was the last time you saw a Berwick licensing officer .. and not being funny.... do you know where Berwick is :wink:


Where's Berwick :lol:

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To get yourself licensed as a Berwick driver you only need to apply by post.. you're vehicle if new will be licensed and the plates sent to you by post..... there you go. you're a licensed taxi driver and vehicle.. that will never work in Berwick..

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Oh, so it's kinda like an imaginary council that people use to get easy licences. Perhaps the licencing should merge with the next town or something that actually bothers with licencing.......

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Oh, so it's kinda like an imaginary council that people use to get easy licences. Perhaps the licencing should merge with the next town or something that actually bothers with licencing.......
That's as good a way of saying it.... but unfortunately it's not the only one

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