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Bryan, that may be the case in your manor, but it isn't written in primary law.

A few councils have by-laws or licensing conditions saying that empty PH must return to base, but most don't.

It may be fine in a small rural area, but can you imagine the site of hundreds, in some case thousands, of PH all lined up in city centers like Birmingham or Manchester.

Then they would be accused of ranking.

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IDFIMH

it is not the fact of not returning to base it is plying for hire, why on earth should it be allowed it is a private hire

I understand what you are saying UNC, but defining plying for hire isn't as simple as it seems.

Just look at the mess at Watford, and that is a matter of yards from the main road.

As a PH, and proud of it, I don't need too, nor do, ply for hire, but I have to park my car somewhere.

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IDFIMH

i am ph as well i need not either but it the fact that our la seem not to be interested we never see them after 5 or weekends but hc are struggling in such a smal place and the big ph companies are getting away with moe and more selling there hc plates and replacing them with ph and using them as if they were hc but the la does not want to know

Sorry not quite with u there, are you saying that they have no where to park on returning to base or that they just park up in town.
In Horsham you have to have planning permission for the PH Office which will not be granted unless you have room for the cars to park on their return as well, which makes sense to me.
I understand that if you have the latest SatNav control data system then cars could go straight to the next job. No private hire has the right to just sit at the side of the road and wait, even on its own as this would encourage the public to approach the vehicle (Even an HC cannot do this)
Bryan

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Bryan Hoare ABC Taxis Horsham/Horsham Licenced Carriage Association/Southern Counties Allicance of Taxi Associations.

The strange thing is, that in most councils in the UK, a PH can just about sit where they like, whereas HCs must go back to a rank.

When a PH firm has a dozen or so vehicles, then I don't think the return to base issue is a problem.

But when that firms has hundreds, and there office is in a city center, it just isn't going to happen.

It also doesn't make economic sense. Whats the point of a PH going back to the office, when a job is coming up near where he has just dropped?

If we use the out of town supermarket scenario. They have a PH free-phone, and get hundreds of jobs daily. Are the cars going to go back to the office each time, and then go back to the supermarket?

I don't think so.

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IDFIMH

I see no problem with going to the supermarket if the job is there, or anywhere if the job is there. Hence being on a good circuit with plenty of work. I manage to run both PH & HC together without any problems but if it is quite the PH has to return to base or disappear out of the public's view.!! We once had a case of a cetain firm just parking anywhere they pleased, but eventualy this was stopped. It is the old story when things get quite certain PH's will do anything to get a job, so why don't they get a HC and do it legally.
Bryan

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Bryan Hoare ABC Taxis Horsham/Horsham Licenced Carriage Association/Southern Counties Allicance of Taxi Associations.

Well I suspect many of them wish they could.

However if that means paying tens of thousands to someone who got his plate for nothing, then it's no wonder that some PH do try it on.

Not condoning such actions, but if they had a HC plate on the back, then it wouldn't happen, and customers wouldn't be put at risk.

I believe that was part of OFT's case.

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IDFIMH

i think if you pull up in a side rd where the public hardley go and jump in the back seat and wait for a radio job from youir firm that should be ok.because you are in the back resting.

Can anyone tell me (apart from the obvious) why operators go for private hire plates over Hackney, in my area Hackney Plates are cheaper and there are virtualy no Private Hire.

It might be they don't need a meter or particular signage. Could be that taxis need to be WAVs.

It could also be that the PH don't need as hard a knowledge as the taxis boys, or just that they are a bit thick.

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IDFIMH

no Sussex you are miles off beam!
its because Hackneys are fair weather clients, when they are needed they are plying for jobs, private hire have to use the office, so carry bthe office load especially when its busy.

thought that was obvious.

I think you are missing the point made.

The question was why drivers choose to license PH, when there is no difference to licensing HC.

And the point I sort of made was that in those areas, taxis are really PH with a license to pick up from the streets.

Now what a good idea.

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IDFIMH

Sussex.
you are [edited by admin] about with mind games.
if someone realy is that thick to ask such a question, shouldnt they be reading the beano and not on here?

Some people ask that question because they can't believe that some out there are that thick.

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IDFIMH