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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:34 am 
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I know this has probably been raised many times but I'm new to the forum and totally confused.

I have a website and frequently get asked to quote for transfers from just outside my area for journeys which would go through my area to UK airports.

I've been told by my licensing authority that I can only pick up or set down in my area.

Is this true as I've seen this on the web:

6. Where can I operate the private hire operators business?

Private hire operators can take bookings from, anywhere in the country
and journeys may start and end outside the area in which the business
is situated. However, operators can only advertise in the borough in
which they are licensed.
(Source: www.hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk)


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PaulEFC wrote:
I know this has probably been raised many times but I'm new to the forum and totally confused.

I have a website and frequently get asked to quote for transfers from just outside my area for journeys which would go through my area to UK airports.

I've been told by my licensing authority that I can only pick up or set down in my area.

Is this true as I've seen this on the web:

6. Where can I operate the private hire operators business?

Private hire operators can take bookings from, anywhere in the country
and journeys may start and end outside the area in which the business
is situated. However, operators can only advertise in the borough in
which they are licensed.
(Source: www.hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk)



If your PH or Taxi You can advertise anywhere in the world mate..no crime in advertising yourself, the only self advertising they may dislike on some councils PH stipulations is on your vehicle itself. as for taking bookings if your PH..you can collect anywhere and drop off anywhere as well, nothing to stop you picking up in Lands end and taking a punter to John o groats, thats your customers choice, just as long as it was booked by them through your recognised and licenced base or even through your base phone and diverted to your Mobile or even directly to your mobile if its your business phone number...the only point being is that these bookings should come through your business base where your licenced to operate from. and even if your a Taxi you can work PH style outside your area if you forego the meter and use the PH method of agreeing a price or approximating a Price before the run commences.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:52 am 
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I've been told by my licensing authority that I can only pick up or set down in my area.

Then your licensing authority are clueless as to the workings of the 1976 act. Alas a common occurrence.

We shall call you and your licensing area A.

We shall call two of the areas outside your area B and C.

As long as the work you do is taken/received/accepted in area A, and you despatch area A licensed cars driven by an area A licensed driver, then it doesn't matter a jot where that work starts, or where it finishes.

In other words you could send an A licensed car and driver to area B, which could be 200 miles area, going to area C, a further 200 miles away, and that job would be entirely legal.

You don't have to start a job in area A, finish a job in area A, in fact a car licensed in area A doesn't really ever have to go to area A, other than after a request to meet his LO.

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well im in Lichfield, widest apart jobs ive had were a Heanor collection/Heathrow drop.....

I must be a real pirate

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I'm Hackney licensed if that makes any difference


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PaulEFC wrote:
I'm Hackney licensed if that makes any difference


only for your own/one area.....


I have a website and am a member of several "give me a quote" websites, (not other ops sites) and its only for inital contacts and quote.

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Private hire operators can take bookings from, anywhere in the country
and journeys may start and end outside the area in which the business
is situated. However, operators can only advertise in the borough in
which they are licensed.


how do you restrict magazine/local papers/internet or the such to just one council area?

this is the farcical outdated legislation at work again...


your in Hinckley? how would (say) Atherstone taxis prevent thier adverts being seen over the river in witherely?

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I can't seem to find the appropraite wording anywhere online regarding this matter. Does anyone know where I can find it?


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PaulEFC wrote:
I can't seem to find the appropraite wording anywhere online regarding this matter. Does anyone know where I can find it?


firstly, ask your LO for a copy of the HC and PH regs

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The High Court Case

The case was Brentwood Borough Council vs Andrew Ernest Gladen, heard in the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court in October 2004.

Andrew Gladen operated a telephone booking service for taxis on a central telephone number, and sent out licensed hackney carriages to pick up customers. Brentwood Borough Council said that he should have a private hire operator's licence for such a service.

But the judges decided that such a service, provided by licensed hackney carriage drivers in response to telephone bookings, does not fall under Section 55 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, and hence an operator's licence is not required.


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PaulEFC wrote:
I can't seem to find the appropraite wording anywhere online regarding this matter. Does anyone know where I can find it?


firstly, ask your LO for a copy of the HC and PH regs

No such thing as HC regulations.

HC MUST be 'regulated' by Bye-laws & if that particular LA don't have Hackney Carriage Bye-laws in place, then they can't be regulated by regulations or Conditions of License.

We had this situation in Brum until a few years ago & in her report to the Licensing Committee, the chief officer wrote that without HC Bye-laws they could not even enforce HC drivers wearing their HCD badge.

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ok, the OP should ask his LO/LA for its source for the remark or withdraw it

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PaulEFC wrote:
I'm Hackney licensed if that makes any difference

It makes a massive difference.

You don't come under any part of the 1976 act that relates to taking a PH booking.

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PaulEFC wrote:
I can't seem to find the appropraite wording anywhere online regarding this matter. Does anyone know where I can find it?

For what? :?

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A licence is required for all taxi vehicles that wish to ply for hire in the street i.e. to accept passengers for hire and reward at taxi ranks, off the street, or when flagged down by a member of the public.

Taxi operators can also accept pre-arranged bookings, however, they must never charge more than the amount shown on the meter.

It should also be noted that the meter should not be activated before the commencement of the journey. Taxis can be identified by a white roof sign, with the exception of purpose built vehicles, and a white taxi plate on the rear bumper which displays the taxi identification number.


out of area trip anyone?...


http://www.hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk/pp/ ... ge&ID=9399




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10. Can I take private hire bookings from outside the borough of Hinckley & Bosworth?

Private Hire Operators must be licensed by the council for the area in which they are operating but bookings may be taken for journeys which start or end outside that area.

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