GBC wrote:
How does he overcharge?
Some drivers, in areas that have a separate rate for 5+ punters, will put on the higher rate even if they only have one or two punters.
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| Author: | tom2907 [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:31 am ] |
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A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Passenger choice |
tom2907 wrote: A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ?
I think / know there isnt one, the 1847 act is your best source to cover this possibly section 64. CC |
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| Author: | cabby john [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:15 pm ] |
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I am sure that it is covered some where, it might even be in your local regs/bylaws. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:58 pm ] |
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the customer cant be FORCED to use 1 particular cab, even if it is the 1st, i wouldnt walk past 40 hacks on a rank to get to the front, id get in the one nearest to me... |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:22 pm ] |
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I'm almost certain the customer has the choice, it's simple etiquette that dictates the first car goes each time. Anyway if he overcharges ppl then what does he expect, end product of one rule for one and another rule for everyone else regarding how you are delt with when you get found out, personally I'd go up to him and say I'm taking this job because the customer says you overcharge and that is theiving and bad for business, let him go squinny to the LO with his race card held aloft and drop himself under the microscope. |
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| Author: | GBC [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:25 pm ] |
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How does he overcharge? Are Manchester meters not sealed and calendar controlled like London? In London we can't change a thing on our meters, they change from rate 1/2/3 at the designated time. |
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| Author: | Doom [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:42 pm ] |
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GBC wrote: How does he overcharge?
Are Manchester meters not sealed and calendar controlled like London? In London we can't change a thing on our meters, they change from rate 1/2/3 at the designated time. It goes like this..... Hello could you take us to hypothetical destination 20 miles away Cabby says... That will be £60 when it should only really be £40, normally happens when there's no other cabs around and the customer is drunk or desperate or both, although we had one a few weeks ago asking £17 for a £4.50 ride, another trick is to leave the meter on from the last job and hope the customer hasn't noticed, then when they get there he shows the meter as proof that the fare is what he's asked for. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:24 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: the customer cant be FORCED to use 1 particular cab, even if it is the 1st, i wouldnt walk past 40 hacks on a rank to get to the front, id get in the one nearest to me...
You use a proper taxi ... a Hackney Carriage .... dream on Peter Pan!! |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:26 pm ] |
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GBC wrote: How does he overcharge?
Are Manchester meters not sealed and calendar controlled like London? In London we can't change a thing on our meters, they change from rate 1/2/3 at the designated time. You can if you have a Cygnus 300!!! Without breaking the seal!!! |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Passenger choice |
tom2907 wrote: A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ?
I would educate every passenger that has been ripped off by 'Pyjamas Punjab' that they should ask for a receipt before they pay PP & give each passenger the phone number & address of the LA's enforcement officer. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Passenger choice |
tom2907 wrote: A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ?
The acts don't really help, other than the section which deals with behaviour of drivers to each other. But you are looking for something you don't need to. In other words if their isn't a statute saying you can't do something, then you automatically can if you wish to. That said, why haven't your local trade got your local council to do some mystery shopping on the iffy drivers? Or maybe the local press can run a story? |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Passenger choice |
tom2907 wrote: A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ?
Usually the bye-laws state that cabs must move up on a rank when first turn has worked. But nowhere that I know of does it say that the drivers on a rank must work IN TURN from first turn. And if the legislation does not say that, nor the bye-laws, then no offence is being committed by a driver that works out of turn on a rank. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
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GBC wrote: How does he overcharge?
Some drivers, in areas that have a separate rate for 5+ punters, will put on the higher rate even if they only have one or two punters.
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| Author: | Doom [ Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Passenger choice |
Brummie Cabbie wrote: tom2907 wrote: A situation has occurred on a rank here in Manchester. A driver who continually overcharges is being by passed on the rank by angry passengers who get the next cab. He gets annoyed and accuses them of racisim (you guessed it). I know it is held that the passenger can choose any cab from a rank that they wish. I need to know which statute orders this. I have searched Town police clauses and LGMPA but only section 60 LGMPA touched on it but is not clear enough. Does anybody know of any statute that covers this. ? I would educate every passenger that has been ripped off by 'Pyjamas Punjab' that they should ask for a receipt before they pay PP & give each passenger the phone number & address of the LA's enforcement officer. I do that regardless of if the driver is black or white, they're all <3heads and bad for business imo, the only way it might stop is to issue a letter to all drivers that if they overcharge intentionally they lose their badge for 2mths as a first offence and a repeat means no badge ever again and a data base for inter council use so they can't get licensed anywhere else either, oh and maybe a criminal record for stealing might deter them as well. |
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| Author: | Doom 101 [ Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:32 am ] |
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53 Penalty on driver for refusing to drive A driver of a hackney carriage standing at any of the stands for hackney carriages appointed by the commissioners, or in any street, who refuses or neglects, without reasonable excuse, to drive such carriage to any place within the prescribed distance, or the distance to be appointed by any byelaw of the commissioners, not exceeding the prescribed distance, to which he is directed to drive by the person hiring or wishing to hire such carriage, shall for every such offence be liable to a penalty not exceeding [level 2 on the standard scale]. The answer is in the above (TPCA) The onus is on the driver to accept the hiring "without reasonable excuse" It would be unlikely to be a "reasonable excuse" to drag out your passenger when you are cab No2 after he told you that cab No1 had ripped him off in the past and he wasn't prepared to travel with him again. It is simply a courtesy that a passenger takes the first cab on a rank. Consider a common occurence. Passenger approaches 1st cab and asks for price to anytown and is quoted £40, he explains he is willing to pay only £30. First cab totally refuses to go for £30, as does cab 2, 3 and 4. However cab 5 lives in anytown and is delighted to get £30 to go for his tea. Has the passenger committed some offence by not taking the 1st cab? Of course not. If you are cab no 55 on a rank you CANNOT refuse a fare "without reasonable excuse" I understood the cabs in Manchester had taken to displaying a Union Jack sticker in the windscreen to show passengers that the driver had an excellent command of the English language and did not require a "posta-cod" to reach their destination. It was on that basis that Stockport cabs developed their "smiley face" stickers. http://stationtaxisstockport.blogspot.c ... s-for.html |
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