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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:49 am ] |
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Pick up passengers in this country and transport them overseas in a taxi or private hire car? There are now several instances, including my mate who have taken customers to their destination on the continent. It was stated regarding my mates trip that our licenses only allow us to work within the UK. Are the ones who are taking passengers overseas actually breaking the law and is anything likely to come of it? |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:57 am ] |
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grandad wrote: Pick up passengers in this country and transport them overseas in a taxi or private hire car?
There are now several instances, including my mate who have taken customers to their destination on the continent. It was stated regarding my mates trip that our licenses only allow us to work within the UK. Are the ones who are taking passengers overseas actually breaking the law and is anything likely to come of it? IMO, I don't think they would be breaking any UK law, because if there is an offence, it would be committed abroad, so would be an offence in France, Germany or where ever. If an offence was committed abroad & the driver convicted, then that would ultimately become a licensing issue. If the driver on re-licensing did not disclose the conviction abroad & it became known to the licensing dept in the future, then the driver would in my opinion be in serious trouble, firstly for the offence, but more seriously for non-disclosure, i.e. lying. I have asked a question about the obvious transgression that would occur in these instances & that's insurance cover. As we are now part of the EU, a green card is no longer necessary. But, FULL EU insurance is only valid for 90 days during an annual policy & because of that insurance companies need to be advised PRIOR to travel when you are travelling & for how long, so that they can deduct the time abroad from the 90 day allowance. If you don't advise your insurance company, you are only covered for third party risk. I just wonder how many of these drivers / proprietor have bothered to phone their insurance company prior to going abroad with a fare? If they have not, then comprehensive insurance & PUBLIC LIABILITY would not be covered; only third party cover would be in force. That's what I have been told. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:58 am ] |
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Probably covered by EU regs somewhere, under fair business practices |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:12 pm ] |
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I think BC and wannabe (nice to see him back) are about right. The booking is accepted within the licensing area and allows the fare to be carried anywhere.........as BC points out, whether the insurance company cover for abroad is a different matter. CC |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:03 pm ] |
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I did read in a newspaper article whilst in Spain that there have been several instances where Portugese taxi drivers have been arrested and convicted by the Spanish police and courts for picking up and setting down passengers in Spain. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:08 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: I did read in a newspaper article whilst in Spain that there have been several instances where Portugese taxi drivers have been arrested and convicted by the Spanish police and courts for picking up and setting down passengers in Spain.
Portugese taxi drivers picking up in Spain is an obvious no, no!! Portugese taxi drivers picking up in Portugal & dropping in Spain should be legitimate / legal, provided the insurance is fully valid for Spain. No that's what I call a real cross border issue!! |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:41 pm ] |
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Is Wales in the EU? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:16 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: Pick up passengers in this country and transport them overseas in a taxi or private hire car?
I believe the licensing aspects of your question to be 100% legal. My only concern would be the insurance aspect, which of course you could sort out as and when. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:18 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: It was stated regarding my mates trip that our licenses only allow us to work within the UK.
IMO the licenses we have allow us to procure work, either via the phone or the streets. Once we have secured that work I believe we are covered to take the work where ever. |
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| Author: | meltingsmoke [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:50 pm ] |
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I probly would have to renew my passport, thats the only thing I would have to do, my opt licence does says accept bookings . I cannot see a restriction on Where the pickup or drop off on it Insurance is hire and reward |
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| Author: | Nigel [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:51 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: Is Wales in the EU?
They like to think they are. |
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| Author: | stealth [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: So, is it legal to.......... |
grandad wrote: Pick up passengers in this country and transport them overseas in a taxi or private hire car?
There are now several instances, including my mate who have taken customers to their destination on the continent. It was stated regarding my mates trip that our licenses only allow us to work within the UK. Are the ones who are taking passengers overseas actually breaking the law and is anything likely to come of it? Some time ago, I had a client who fancied going over to France to the WW1 battlefield sites. My insurance broker advised me that I would not be covered for hire and reward whilst overseas, but still fully comp under the SDP section. I was advised to charge only for the return to Dover, and then do the rest as SDP. As Dover was out of area, there was no need to adhere to the meter rates, so the agreed price could compensate. Just thought I'd share this. Just in case any one is still reading this, the client sadly died before we could go. Shame, nice lady. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:08 am ] |
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from the news stories it seems only us that may be worried heard of a taxi doing a barcelona to calais for €1400 (850 miles or 940 via rheims, £1235, dunno who paid the tolls) so its another case of the UK being more worried about regs than the rest of europe |
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