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Six turns per hour !!!!
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Author:  Sussex [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Six turns per hour !!!!
According to the latest review of the review etc etc drivers in London use the turning circle six times per hour. :shock:

http://www.transportforlondon.gov.uk/pc ... Report.pdf

It also goes into detail about the study;

http://www.transportforlondon.gov.uk/pc ... Report.pdf

But my money is on the alternatives getting the chance, even if it has to be a judge making the final decision. :shock:

Perhaps we will get a final answer in a month or so time . :wink:
Author:  jimbo [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  six turns per hour
Only six turns per hour? The turning circle is not just about U-turns, real taxi drivers use the magic manoeverability all the time. I know maggie said "the lady's not for turning", but purpose built taxi's are!
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
jimbo wrote:
Only six turns per hour? The turning circle is not just about U-turns, real taxi drivers use the magic manoeverability all the time. I know maggie said "the lady's not for turning", but purpose built taxi's are!

But didn't the Transport Research mob say that the U-turn was dangerous?

So in effect they are saying that London Cabbie do six un-safe manoeuvers per hour. :shock:
Author:  jimbo [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  six turns per hour
If a U-turn is dodgy, what about a breadvans (oops sorry, purpose built) 3,4, or 5 point turn?
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
jimbo wrote:
If a U-turn is dodgy, what about a breadvans (oops sorry, purpose built) 3,4, or 5 point turn?

I think the report said that because the bread vans couldn't do U-turns, then drivers wouldn't try them in E7s, thus they were safer. :-k
Author:  Yorkie [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
Sussex wrote:
jimbo wrote:
If a U-turn is dodgy, what about a breadvans (oops sorry, purpose built) 3,4, or 5 point turn?

I think the report said that because the bread vans couldn't do U-turns, then drivers wouldn't try them in E7s, thus they were safer. :-k


well done Sussex, copied Jamie Borwicks e-mail and repeared a run carbon copy to the London site!

that was not bright, its boring there and boring here.
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
Yorkie wrote:
well done Sussex, copied Jamie Borwicks e-mail and repeared a run carbon copy to the London site!

that was not bright, its boring there and boring here.

I think you are seeing things Mr Yorkie, Jamie mentions acceleration and things like that. Do you see that here? :?
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  six turns per hour
Is it being suggested here that vehicles with a greater turning circle than 25 feet are SAFER because they have to do a three point turn? Please do not tell me that this is the case I know of one breadvan driver who was in a fatal collision whilst doing a U-turn. How can comparisons be made in London of the "safety" or otherwise of E7's when none are licensed there? So, Question to any E7 (or similar) driver out there, when did you last turn your vehicle to be facing in the opposite direction, or do you go a mile out of your way to use a roundabout? Tell the truth now, no fibs...
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
jimbo wrote:
Is it being suggested here that vehicles with a greater turning circle than 25 feet are SAFER because they have to do a three point turn?

It has been proved by the professionals (Transport Research mob) that doing a U-turn is dangerous, be it a 25 foot one, or a 25 yard one.

Thus saying that a vehicle is better for the public because it's able to do more dangerous manoeuvres, seems to me a little bit daft.

All that aside, why shouldn't the lads in London and elsewhere have a choice of what to drive. If they don't like the bread vans, then they wont buy them. :shock:
Author:  Yorkie [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: six turns per hour
Yorkie wrote:
Sussex wrote:
jimbo wrote:
If a U-turn is dodgy, what about a breadvans (oops sorry, purpose built) 3,4, or 5 point turn?

I think the report said that because the bread vans couldn't do U-turns, then drivers wouldn't try them in E7s, thus they were safer. :-k


well done Sussex, copied Jamie Borwicks e-mail and repeared a run carbon copy to the London site!

that was not bright, its boring there and boring here.
Author:  GBC [ Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:14 pm ]
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Hey Jimbo, i note your location is shown as ' Lincoln', that one heck of a commute to Holloway Road from there, even with a tight turning circle.

Your correct in stating the turning circle is handy, but not £8K handy, the rest of the traffic in London survive just fine, so will the E7.

As i've said before if the LTI product is superior to the alternatives, LTI will continue to dominate, but as the alternatives get nearer, and they will appear one day, all i hear from LTI is this unadultarated crap about 'icon', 'turn on a sixpence', 'traditional pbt' etc, missing out of course on all the nightmare storys about their Ford Transit (plumbers) van engines.

Still time will tell, but I think you know as well as I do there will be E7's sharing the ranks soon.
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