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| Author: | Roger Didley [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hackneys and boundaries |
Can anyone enlighten me on the rules or bylaws about Hackneys operating outside of their licensing authority? I know they can't rank or respond to flag downs outside of their LA, but can they respond to phone calls in areas outside of their LA? For example, if I got myself a Ribble Valley Hackney, could I still pick up a phone booked job in Preston's LA even if the fare/journey wasn't entering the Ribble Valley district? The reason why I ask is... I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackneys and boundaries |
Roger Didley wrote: I know they can't rank or respond to flag downs outside of their LA, but can they respond to phone calls in areas outside of their LA?
Yes. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:59 pm ] |
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Quote: I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA?
if prebooked.....and all details logged |
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| Author: | Roger Didley [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:40 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: Quote: I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA? if prebooked.....and all details logged Prebooked as in they ring my mobile. I won't be setting up an operators license or anything like that, just a Hackney driver. Where would I have to log the details? Is the call registry in my phone enough evidence? Currently I simply receive a call, take the job on and pick them up. On the rare occasion a fare starts and ends outside of my LA, have I already broken the law with that? |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:43 pm ] |
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Roger Didley wrote: Prebooked as in they ring my mobile. I won't be setting up an operators license or anything like that, just a Hackney driver. Where would I have to log the details? Is the call registry in my phone enough evidence? Probably, but get a notebook and write them down anyway. It won't hurt. Quote: Currently I simply receive a call, take the job on and pick them up. On the rare occasion a fare starts and ends outside of my LA, have I already broken the law with that? No.
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:50 pm ] |
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from our regs.............. Quote: "you may not use a mobile number to solicit bookings"
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:54 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: from our regs..............
Quote: "you may not use a mobile number to solicit bookings" Is that a byelaw? Does every LA have one like it? Does it apply to hacks as well as PH? |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:04 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: Quote: I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA? if prebooked.....and all details logged Oh yeah, really!! Which rule book is that one from? |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:22 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Quote: I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA? if prebooked.....and all details logged Oh yeah, really!! Which rule book is that one from? lichfield district council all details, name, address, size of party, how booking was made, times your a hack on a rank BC, you wouldnt know |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:28 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: Brummie Cabbie wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: Quote: I don't live in Preston's LA, but I do drive a Preston Hackney. If I was to switch to the authority where I live, could I still service my clients I have built up while working in the Preston LA? if prebooked.....and all details logged Oh yeah, really!! Which rule book is that one from? lichfield district council all details, name, address, size of party, how booking was made, times your a hack on a rank BC, you wouldnt know We're talking Hackney here and you don't need all details; there's no law says you do!! Pick-up point, name, time and date; that's all you need. |
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| Author: | Roger Didley [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:00 pm ] |
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I currently have quite a lot of phone work, and on busy nights I can be restricted to 1 or 2 rank jobs as my phone is sometimes red hot. I could simply switch to PH in Preston LA, but then I'd either have to join a circuit at extra cost for the radio or set up my own operators license. I'm looking to do this change to avoid the high rent of £210 per week for the Hackney I rent, so saving on that and then paying a firm for a radio doesn't make sense. Hackneys, as far as I'm lead to believe, do not need a OL to take private bookings, so that's why I'm looking into getting a Hackney plate from a LA that doesn't have a cap on them. The only doubt I have is what I posted in the opening post, and that's the legality of carrying out private bookings in a different LA than the one on my plate. Does any HC drivers here do cross border bookings already? |
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:19 pm ] |
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Roger Didley wrote: Does any HC drivers here do cross border bookings already? Yes, particulary those licensed in Berwick 
For chapter and verse on the law have a read of the Fidler case. Summary here: http://www.lawreports.co.uk/WLRD/2010/Q ... idler.html Full judgement here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Adm ... /2430.html |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:00 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: if prebooked.....and all details logged
No. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:02 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: from our regs..............
Quote: "you may not use a mobile number to solicit bookings" They may, or may not apply to PH, but it can never apply to HC as there are no HC operating provisions in any act. In other words no law, therefore no breach is possible. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:04 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: Pick-up point, name, time and date; that's all you need.
Really? Has there been a Taxi Act 2011 that I have missed? 
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