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Is This Legal Hackney to PHV
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Author:  The Jester [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Is This Legal Hackney to PHV
The private hire firm who I work for are short of drivers, they are planning to use hackneys plated in a different area to do only pre booked private hire work in our manor is this legal or not?
Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:25 pm ]
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Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK
Author:  grandad [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK


Isn't the office, car and driver supposed to be licensed by the same authority?
Author:  gusmac [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote:
Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK


Not legal in Scotland [-X
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:05 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK

Isn't the office, car and driver supposed to be licensed by the same authority?

Only if they are all Private Hire.

That's what all the hoo-ha is about with the Berwick-upon-Tweed plates with one even working in Paignton in Devon on a PH system and no one can do anything about it!!
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is This Legal Hackney to PHV
The Jester wrote:
The private hire firm who I work for are short of drivers, they are planning to use hackneys plated in a different area to do only pre booked private hire work in our manor is this legal or not?

Legally legal, morally corrupt. :sad:
Author:  Sussex [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:45 pm ]
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gusmac wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK


Not legal in Scotland [-X

Don't us lot down here have an exemption up there? :?
Author:  gusmac [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:47 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
gusmac wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Yes a hack can be used as PH anywhere in the UK


Not legal in Scotland [-X

Don't us lot down here have an exemption up there? :?


:-$ Don't tell anyone :shock:
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is This Legal Hackney to PHV
Sussex wrote:
The Jester wrote:
The private hire firm who I work for are short of drivers, they are planning to use hackneys plated in a different area to do only pre booked private hire work in our manor is this legal or not?

Legally legal, morally corrupt. :sad:

I would put it differently; legally not illegal, brought about by incompetent law draftsmen that cannot draft legislation correctly.

And they even have their own song!!!

It goes like this;

The Law Draftsman’s Song
(with apologies to W. S. Gilbert)
by John F. Wilson

Rising early in the morning,
We ensure before we go
That we sharpen up our pencils
For our work at QGO. (1)
Then we start without delay
On the duties of the day.

First we polish off some sections
Of a Bill about elections,
With Explanatory Memo to be sent.
Then if business isn’t pressing,
We may take a Chinese lesson,
Or localise an Act of Parliament. (2)

Then we probably review the list of books
For keeping other colleagues off the hooks; (3)
Or receive with ceremonial and state
An interesting Peking delegate. (4)

After that we might take off a
Little time to have a coffee
(Notwithstanding that we’re busy
And despite the AG’s ban.) (5)

Write a memo literary
For some Branch’s Secretary
(They are shaky in their spelling
So we help them if we can.) (6)

Next we help in the translation
Of a piece of legislation,
Then we mug up on our Roget
And our Concise OED.

Spend an hour in placing commas –
Though they’ll soon be taken from us – (7)
Or we draft a legal notice
For the Governor in C. (8)

Chorus
Oh, the other lawyers sing
Of the boredom of drafting,
Yet the duties are delightful
And the privileges free.
But the privilege and pleasure
That we treasure beyond measure,
Is to draft a legal notice
For the Governor in C.

Notes
1. Queensway Government Offices, Hong Kong, where the Law Drafting Division is situated.
2. The ‘localisation’ of British laws which previously applied to Hong Kong was a major task in the years before 1997.
3. I was LDD rep. on the Chambers Library Committee for several years.
4. The LDD was often involved in briefings for mainland Chinese lawyers before 1997.
5. An ‘in’ joke about avoiding the use of ‘notwithstanding’ as part of a move towards plain English; also about a ban on long coffee breaks.
6. Government departments were called ‘Branches’ before 1997; now called ‘Bureaus’. No change otherwise.
7. Probably by the ever-assiduous Law Clerks in LDD.
8. Governor-in-Council, for those born after 1997.
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