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Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Birmingham City Council Consultation
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Satelli ... ineWrapper

AND THEN;

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/326DTY7
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham City Council Consultation
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/326DTY7

Should anyone be shocked that the council know nothing about insurance law?

Cos if they did then they wouldn't have repeated the not insured line in question 2. ](*,)
Author:  grandad [ Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:28 am ]
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I have completed their survey and made a comment about the insurance. Maybe they may get the message if we all do the same.
Author:  skippy41 [ Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:28 am ]
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grandad wrote:
I have completed their survey and made a comment about the insurance. Maybe they may get the message if we all do the same.


So have I :D
In fact I suggested fitting calendar controlled meters,set to the councils rates, and making them paint the vehicles yellow, and to show large door stickers with pre book only without phone numbers :D
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham City Council Consultation
Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/326DTY7

Should anyone be shocked that the council know nothing about insurance law?

Cos if they did then they wouldn't have repeated the not insured line in question 2. ](*,)

The insurance angle is due to the Courts finding drivers guilty of illegally plying for hire and fining them for no insurance, which really should be for not having VALID insurance for plying for hire, which they don't have.

The councillors are only abiding by the Courts' decisions.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:30 am ]
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skippy41 wrote:
grandad wrote:
I have completed their survey and made a comment about the insurance. Maybe they may get the message if we all do the same.

So have I :D
In fact I suggested fitting calendar controlled meters,set to the councils rates, and making them paint the vehicles yellow, and to show large door stickers with pre book only without phone numbers :D

FFS Mr Skippy41!!!

By the time you've finished, we'll all be f*cked in Brum!!
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham City Council Consultation
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
The insurance angle is due to the Courts finding drivers guilty of illegally plying for hire and fining them for no insurance, which really should be for not having VALID insurance for plying for hire, which they don't have.

The councillors are only abiding by the Courts' decisions.

The survey says customers are not insured, that's not the truth.

All customers are covered even if the driver hasn't got any insurance.
Author:  grandad [ Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Birmingham City Council Consultation
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/326DTY7

Should anyone be shocked that the council know nothing about insurance law?

Cos if they did then they wouldn't have repeated the not insured line in question 2. ](*,)

The insurance angle is due to the Courts finding drivers guilty of illegally plying for hire and fining them for no insurance, which really should be for not having VALID insurance for plying for hire, which they don't have.

The councillors are only abiding by the Courts' decisions.


If the question was relating to the driver or the vehicle, then they would be correct. The question is relating to the customer and in that case it is incorrect.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:20 am ]
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The first question on this online survey reads;

Did you know that a Private Hire driver commits a criminal offence if they take a passenger who has not booked a journey in advance through the driver's Private Hire Company (plying for hire)?

Is it?
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Is it?

Yes.
Author:  Nemisis [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:14 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Is it?

Yes.

Does this mean Taxi landlines diverted to PH mobiles with non operator driving/answering is also illegal?
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:52 am ]
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Nemisis wrote:
Does this mean Taxi landlines diverted to PH mobiles with non operator driving/answering is also illegal?

IMO diverts are legal, as long as the diverting operator base has a license.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:19 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Is it?

Yes.

So I proved to myself yesterday.

I always thought that illegal plying for hire was a civil offence.

Oh, well!! You learn something new every day!!

Which now distinctly begs the question; if illegal plying for hire is a criminal offence, why don't the police get much more involved in this and on arresting the suspect take their DNA as they are allowed to do now?

It might help solve some other crimes!!

This was muted as long ago as 27th November 2003.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:32 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Which now distinctly begs the question; if illegal plying for hire is a criminal offence, why don't the police get much more involved in this and on arresting the suspect take their DNA as they are allowed to do now?

Because councils have delegation to do the criminal prosecutions.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:23 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Which now distinctly begs the question; if illegal plying for hire is a criminal offence, why don't the police get much more involved in this and on arresting the suspect take their DNA as they are allowed to do now?

Because councils have delegation to do the criminal prosecutions.

Since when and under which legislation?

Because our lot clearly state that prosecutions for touting MUST be done by the police.
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