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I may have made a mistake on Saturday last. No comeback but don't want to risk falling foul in future. I think I am OK but would appreciate a view.

I was driving a PH and of course the taxi co has an op's license. As it happens, the firm insists all owners on the circuit also have their own op's license. I had a job over the datahead to pick up a fare from a pub and take to another about a mile away. Another pub customer asked me could I come back and get him afterwards as he wanted to go elsewhere too. My immdiate thought was that's fine cos I have the owner's op's license and the job was pre booked, direct with me in the same LA and I made a record of it for the owner's log.

It wasn't until later I wondered if I had transgressed.

Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver?

grandad wrote:

Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver?

In theory but the driver has an ops licence

grandad wrote:

Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver?

In theory but the driver has an ops licence

If the car's owner has the ops licence for the car, I see nothing wrong with taking a booking. Better if the booking was phoned to the driver, then there's a record of it.

In my view it' s slightly different to a p/h owner driver taking an immediate fare off the street which is illegal.

I wouldn't classify what happened there as touting.

He happened to be picking up a pre-booking and the punter's mate asked if he could do another job later.

I was assuming the driver was the ops licence holder too.

never assume

it makes an ASS out of U and ME

Well as it was the driver who took the booking in the vehicle and the driver does not have an operators license and the vehicle will not be the operating office, I think it is illegal.

Author:	2 Jobs [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:25 am ]
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I may have made a mistake on Saturday last. No comeback but don't want to risk falling foul in future. I think I am OK but would appreciate a view. I was driving a PH and of course the taxi co has an op's license. As it happens, the firm insists all owners on the circuit also have their own op's license. I had a job over the datahead to pick up a fare from a pub and take to another about a mile away. Another pub customer asked me could I come back and get him afterwards as he wanted to go elsewhere too. My immdiate thought was that's fine cos I have the owner's op's license and the job was pre booked, direct with me in the same LA and I made a record of it for the owner's log. It wasn't until later I wondered if I had transgressed.

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:07 am ]
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2 Jobs wrote: I may have made a mistake on Saturday last. No comeback but don't want to risk falling foul in future. I think I am OK but would appreciate a view. I was driving a PH and of course the taxi co has an op's license. As it happens, the firm insists all owners on the circuit also have their own op's license. I had a job over the datahead to pick up a fare from a pub and take to another about a mile away. Another pub customer asked me could I come back and get him afterwards as he wanted to go elsewhere too. My immdiate thought was that's fine cos I have the owner's op's license and the job was pre booked, direct with me in the same LA and I made a record of it for the owner's log. It wasn't until later I wondered if I had transgressed. Cant see owt wrong there..It was prebooked and you can pick up a pre book from anywhere in the UK if booked through your LA area and you were in your own area when the booking was made..

Author:	grandad [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:20 pm ]
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Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver?

Author:	toots [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:26 pm ]
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grandad wrote: Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver? In theory but the driver has an ops licence

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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toots wrote: grandad wrote: Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver? In theory but the driver has an ops licence The OWNER of the car has an ops licence, the base should have had the details (the car owners base) is 2jobs the owner or the jockey?

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Author:	grandad [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:36 pm ]
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toots wrote: grandad wrote: Isn't the job supposed to be booked through the booking office, not directly with the driver? In theory but the driver has an ops licence He doesn't actually say that he has an ops license. He states that the owner has an ops license.

Author:	roythebus [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:22 pm ]
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If the car's owner has the ops licence for the car, I see nothing wrong with taking a booking. Better if the booking was phoned to the driver, then there's a record of it. In my view it' s slightly different to a p/h owner driver taking an immediate fare off the street which is illegal. I wouldn't classify what happened there as touting. He happened to be picking up a pre-booking and the punter's mate asked if he could do another job later.

Author:	2 Jobs [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:25 pm ]
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Quote: jockey? - That's me! Seems I was right to query as opinions seem varied.

Author:	grandad [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:22 pm ]
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Well as it was the driver who took the booking in the vehicle and the driver does not have an operators license and the vehicle will not be the operating office, I think it is illegal.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:04 pm ]
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roythebus wrote: If the car's owner has the ops licence for the car, I see nothing wrong with taking a booking. Better if the booking was phoned to the driver, then there's a record of it. In my view it' s slightly different to a p/h owner driver taking an immediate fare off the street which is illegal. I wouldn't classify what happened there as touting. He happened to be picking up a pre-booking and the punter's mate asked if he could do another job later. you may not, a court probably would though, the driver wasnt the ops licence holder

Author:	roythebus [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:55 pm ]
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I was assuming the driver was the ops licence holder too.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:56 pm ]
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roythebus wrote: I was assuming the driver was the ops licence holder too. never assume it makes an ASS out of U and ME

Author:	grandad [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:13 am ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: never assume it makes an ASS out of U and ME Yes, I assumed that one of our school runs started yesterday. I was wrong and it sure made an ass out of me, but I think that U got away with it.

Author:	roythebus [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:00 am ]
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Yes, I should have remembered from my railway days, Rule 1, never assume anything!

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Author:	2 Jobs [ Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:15 am ]
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Quote: Well as it was the driver who took the booking in the vehicle and the driver does not have an operators license and the vehicle will not be the operating office, I think it is illegal. See your point, but what if: Lets say I was an independent PH operator, only one vehicle with my own ops license but had an unmanned office with call forwarding as I think many do. If I had said to the second punter I can't take your booking face to face, but you can ring my office number and your call will be forwarded to my mobile and I can then take your booking, would that work? I guess he could email the office with the booking and that in turn will come to my smart phone which picks up my emails.