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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:06 pm 
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Can a council legally prevent a hackney carriage from another district from doing private hire in its district? :roll: :?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:07 pm 
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they cant stop a PH from doing it either, so long as its pre-booked

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:48 am 
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SpoiltForChoice wrote:
Can a council legally prevent a hackney carriage from another district from doing private hire in its district? :roll: :?

No, but the council who license the taxi can put a condition on their license stating that the driver must work predominately in his home area.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:49 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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Can a council legally prevent a hackney carriage from another district from doing private hire in its district? :roll: :?

No, but the council who license the taxi can put a condition on their license stating that the driver must work predominately in his home area.

How do they define predominantly? What if the taxi is used mainly for airport runs and the airport is outside the area that the taxi is licensed in? The driver may only spend 10% of the journey within his own licensing area.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:20 am 
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I cant see how any stipulations can be applied to Hacks or Taxis from carrying out PH work from or to anywhere within the UK providing It's pre-booked or Europe for that matter, It would be unfair and more than likely break some kind of EU Trading laws to exclude people from one area from working in another.....that's why the Tendering process is now EU wide and not just regional.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:03 am 
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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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Can a council legally prevent a hackney carriage from another district from doing private hire in its district? :roll: :?

No, but the council who license the taxi can put a condition on their license stating that the driver must work predominately in his home area.

How do they define predominantly? What if the taxi is used mainly for airport runs and the airport is outside the area that the taxi is licensed in? The driver may only spend 10% of the journey within his own licensing area.


Predominantly would refer to either the point of hire or destination being within the district in which your vehicle is licensed.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:01 pm 
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grandad wrote:
How do they define predominantly?

Well at it's least I would say more than 50% is predominantly, but if it was my choice I would say 75% of the time in his area.

As for longer distance work, I would say the start or end points would count towards the %.

However any sensible person could asses if a vehicles works in an area predominately or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:02 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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How do they define predominantly?

Well at it's least I would say more than 50% is predominantly, but if it was my choice I would say 75% of the time in his area.

As for longer distance work, I would say the start or end points would count towards the %.

However any sensible person could asses if a vehicles works in an area predominately or not.


Surely the Punter has the right to pre-book whoever they want from wherever they want regardless of where the punter lives.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Surely the Punter has the right to pre-book whoever they want from wherever they want regardless of where the punter lives.

Of course, but hackney carriages are licensed to ply in their area, not anywhere else.

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Sussex wrote:
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Surely the Punter has the right to pre-book whoever they want from wherever they want regardless of where the punter lives.

Of course, but hackney carriages are licensed to ply in their area, not anywhere else.


But would that not only apply to Being Hailed or rank work...if it were as the Question mentioned PH style work it shouldn't be an an Issue.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:51 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
But would that not only apply to Being Hailed or rank work...if it were as the Question mentioned PH style work it shouldn't be an an Issue.

A council licenses a taxi to do taxi work in the council area, it doesn't license it for anything else.

And recent judgements suggest that's the way things should be done.

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Sussex wrote:
And recent judgements suggest that's the way things should be done.



till the LC fet their daft way :sad:

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captain cab wrote:
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And recent judgements suggest that's the way things should be done.



till the LC fet their daft way :sad:

Whats gonna happen then?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:08 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
Whats gonna happen then?


Your okay in Scotland.....but in England (and Wales) I think they want us to sell children to make ends meet.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:46 am 
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SpoiltForChoice wrote:
Can a council legally prevent a hackney carriage from another district from doing private hire in its district? :roll: :?

If the question is, can a Hackney from one area work for a Private hire or Taxi firm in another area, I think you should be asking yourself why they would want to? I see many Shropshire Hackneys working for PH in Birmingham and I can only guess that somehow they couldn't get a Brum licence, or have had their Brum licence revoked. Shropshire have now put a stipulation on their licenses saying that they should only work for local firms.


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