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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 pm 
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is the refusal to allow rear loaders to be plated purely down the whim of the LA?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:13 pm 
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is the refusal to allow rear loaders to be plated purely down the whim of the LA?


Yes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:37 pm 
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Ive asked, as theres no mention in the hack or PH regs

probably get an answer next easter

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:43 pm 
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funnily enough having spoke to a few people in the know the preference is toward rear loaders amongst wav users.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:59 pm 
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this would do me

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:36 pm 
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deathtraps :lol:

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deathtraps :lol:


Your just stirring it :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:52 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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deathtraps :lol:


Your just stirring it :badgrin:


of course - but skulls gone with jasper to listen to Karen Carpenter (not a gay thing obviously) - so I wanted to see your response before we cross swords on an issue we aint gonna agree about - and before we'll say sod it we're both right and then get onto another issue :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:08 pm 
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I would suggest you take a look at the policy document that this particular L A has adopted. As we all know they can vary a great deal across the country. That said, rear loading WAVs can be difficult to operate on the rank with the restrictions on space between vehicles and the likelihood of having to load a wheelchair passenger in the road rather than from the nearside.
You are entitled to make an application for the vehicle to be licensed and if the vehicle is contrary to policy the application will be refused. Then you can decide whether to Appeal the decision but take care at this point because the right of Appeal for HC applications is to Crown Court. You would need to be sure of your success as with the LA having to instruct a barrister to present their case you would not want costs to be awarded against you.


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Chiman wrote:
I would suggest you take a look at the policy document that this particular L A has adopted. As we all know they can vary a great deal across the country. That said, rear loading WAVs can be difficult to operate on the rank with the restrictions on space between vehicles and the likelihood of having to load a wheelchair passenger in the road rather than from the nearside.
You are entitled to make an application for the vehicle to be licensed and if the vehicle is contrary to policy the application will be refused. Then you can decide whether to Appeal the decision but take care at this point because the right of Appeal for HC applications is to Crown Court. You would need to be sure of your success as with the LA having to instruct a barrister to present their case you would not want costs to be awarded against you.



im private hire....

I bet they say, present the vehicle before the LO and then we will decide

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:11 am 
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Looks like TFL are takeing the [edited by admin]


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captain cab wrote:
gusmac wrote:
captain cab wrote:
deathtraps :lol:


Your just stirring it :badgrin:


of course - but skulls gone with jasper to listen to Karen Carpenter (not a gay thing obviously) - so I wanted to see your response before we cross swords on an issue we aint gonna agree about - and before we'll say sod it we're both right and then get onto another issue :wink:

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Looks like TFL are takeing the [edited by admin]


Guss could this be your new one being broken in???


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:49 am 
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Chiman wrote:
I would suggest you take a look at the policy document that this particular L A has adopted. As we all know they can vary a great deal across the country. That said, rear loading WAVs can be difficult to operate on the rank with the restrictions on space between vehicles and the likelihood of having to load a wheelchair passenger in the road rather than from the nearside.
You are entitled to make an application for the vehicle to be licensed and if the vehicle is contrary to policy the application will be refused. Then you can decide whether to Appeal the decision but take care at this point because the right of Appeal for HC applications is to Crown Court. You would need to be sure of your success as with the LA having to instruct a barrister to present their case you would not want costs to be awarded against you.

I think you'll find all licencing appeals are to magistrates court initially.

I'd suggest arguing that the LA's policy is contrary to the Equalities Act, preventing disabled persons getting about by limiting the amount of WAVs that can be licenced.


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Chiman wrote:
I would suggest you take a look at the policy document that this particular L A has adopted. As we all know they can vary a great deal across the country. That said, rear loading WAVs can be difficult to operate on the rank with the restrictions on space between vehicles and the likelihood of having to load a wheelchair passenger in the road rather than from the nearside.
You are entitled to make an application for the vehicle to be licensed and if the vehicle is contrary to policy the application will be refused. Then you can decide whether to Appeal the decision but take care at this point because the right of Appeal for HC applications is to Crown Court. You would need to be sure of your success as with the LA having to instruct a barrister to present their case you would not want costs to be awarded against you.

I think you'll find all licencing appeals are to magistrates court initially.

I'd suggest arguing that the LA's policy is contrary to the Equalities Act, preventing disabled persons getting about by limiting the amount of WAVs that can be licenced.


"Disabled" covers more than wheelchair bound persons and most of those can transfer, indeed travelling in a wheelchair strapped in the rear of a taxi is not much fun

"Death traps" is a sweeping statement when 1000's of rear loaders are used daily by ambulance fleets, Motability and volunteers/CT outfits

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