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Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  E7 vehicles
Question for all you drivers out there. Does your licensing authority allow e7 to be used as private hire vehicles, especially if was once licensed as a hackney vehicle. Just had the peak light removed
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
depends on age and colour, here any non-Lti has to be white to be a HC whereas a PH cant be white, and a 1st plate no older than 4 years
Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
Could they get an hackney spec e7 plated up to be used as a private hire
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
CHRIS2610 wrote:
Could they get an hackney spec e7 plated up to be used as a private hire


"spec" dont matter, age and colour do, anything without taxi signs or rooflight will do for PH
Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
Even though they are not suppose to resemble an hackney vehicle
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
CHRIS2610 wrote:
Even though they are not suppose to resemble an hackney vehicle



using that logic a skoda superb hackney would disallow a skoda superb PHV
Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
This is our argument, we have a lot of e 7s as hackney, licensing let 1 through as private, and it's come to our attention that they are putting another 3 on
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
CHRIS2610 wrote:
This is our argument, we have a lot of e 7s as hackney, licensing let 1 through as private, and it's come to our attention that they are putting another 3 on



Its an issue.....I've heard of old fairways being licensed as PHV's in certain areas, admittedly those areas are rife with inbreeding, but its an issue nevertheless.

I think even Cab Direct are against their vehicles being used as PHV's when they were built as taxis - the only thing you can realistically do is request the taxi decals are removed along with the taxi roofsigns etc.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
an E7 isnt a taxi, its a scudo with windows and 8 seats...how does it resemble a taxi (assuming a "taxi" is a london cab)

take the signage and roof light off an E7 and you have a converted bread van
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
CHRIS2610 wrote:
This is our argument, we have a lot of e 7s as hackney, licensing let 1 through as private, and it's come to our attention that they are putting another 3 on


is there any huge difference between an E7

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and a Scudo 8 seater PH?

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Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
Understand what your saying, but in this town I would say 2/3 of the hackneys in this town are e7s, so to let private hire to be able to plate them is wrong, as they resemble a hackney cab
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
wannabeeahack wrote:
an E7 isnt a taxi, its a scudo with windows and 8 seats...how does it resemble a taxi (assuming a "taxi" is a london cab)

take the signage and roof light off an E7 and you have a converted bread van



A taxi is what a local council decides is a taxi
Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
Yes your right, in our town the council recognise the e7s as a hackney, so then how can a vehicle that resembles a taxi become a private hire. Eg. One of the vehicles a private hire firm is trying to put on their system is a e7, and was actually licensed as a hackney cab, a few months back
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
CHRIS2610 wrote:
Yes your right, in our town the council recognise the e7s as a hackney, so then how can a vehicle that resembles a taxi become a private hire. Eg. One of the vehicles a private hire firm is trying to put on their system is a e7, and was actually licensed as a hackney cab, a few months back



I could quote you the law, the 1976 act covers it, in fact UNITE the union tell it chapter and verse, they used it.....quite badly in Liverpool....where they overlooked licensing the Peugeot vehicle as private hire on the pretence it would be instantly blocked from being a HC, a high court judge thought different.

The solution is difficult, primarily we have no idea what the law commission will introduce, this may affect you locally as to what vehicles will be licensed, it also may not.

You could go down the avenue of age limits, but this is a double edged sword - likewise with a colour policy, which would be effective, but again affect everyone.

you have options, but some will upset many people - sadly, simply saying to us that you don't want the vehicle licensed wont work.

CC
Author:  CHRIS2610 [ Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: E7 vehicles
Have you got any info on the court issue
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