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| Author: | roythebus [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... usines.pdf A bit of a heavy read, but still as clear as mud in some areas! |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
roythebus wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/245261/13-limousines.pdf A bit of a heavy read, but still as clear as mud in some areas! Well I'm not so sure. Basically the guidance is saying if someone wants to license a stretch thing for under 9 punters then it must go to a Public Inquiry where the applicant must prove to the Traffic Commissioner that it should be licensed as PSV rather than PHV. Methinks that in itself will cause the iffy mob a lot of grief. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
And I'm just loving this bit in respect of how each under 9 punter Limo job is received. Additionally: on each journey the driver will carry a paper copy of the advertisement the advertisement will show where and when the advert was placed the advertisement will show the start and finish - and this must be more than the mere town - it will include either the road or a postcode. the advertisement will show the pick up time and the return time. Chances of that being adhered too? 0%. 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
Nicely summed up.  If you are hiring a 1 to 8 passenger seat vehicle from a PSV operator for a special occasion, be aware that it is likely to be operating illegally as it is unlikely to have complied with the strict requirements for separate fares; |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
I went to a meeting several years ago organised by the NLcA regarding the use of limos on an "O" license when all this was explained to operators. It was amazing how many operators who operated under the "O" license thought that it would not be enforced. Well it was at least 5 years ago and they only just seem to be looking at it. 
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| Author: | no tips [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
You can thank the NLCA for this mess, instead of pushing for all Councils to License Limos the NLCA went the back door way and went for Vosa O license.Which was never ment for this sort of Hire. It will all end up in Tears. 
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| Author: | grandad [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
no tips wrote: You can thank the NLCA for this mess, instead of pushing for all Councils to License Limos the NLCA went the back door way and went for Vosa O license.Which was never ment for this sort of Hire. It will all end up in Tears. With respect, The NLA did try pushing all councils to license Limousines that carrried up to 8 passengers. The problem was that many councils simply would not license them. Operators then had to look at the alternative way to run legally and the "O" license was the only other way to go. Yes the rules for operating legally this way were often overlooked by many, including VOSA themselves. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
grandad wrote: With respect, The NLA did try pushing all councils to license Limousines that carrried up to 8 passengers. The problem was that many councils simply would not license them. Operators then had to look at the alternative way to run legally and the "O" license was the only other way to go. Yes the rules for operating legally this way were often overlooked by many, including VOSA themselves. No one has ever tried to license one of those things in B&H. |
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| Author: | no tips [ Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
grandad wrote: no tips wrote: You can thank the NLCA for this mess, instead of pushing for all Councils to License Limos the NLCA went the back door way and went for Vosa O license.Which was never ment for this sort of Hire. It will all end up in Tears. With respect, The NLA did try pushing all councils to license Limousines that carrried up to 8 passengers. The problem was that many councils simply would not license them. Operators then had to look at the alternative way to run legally and the "O" license was the only other way to go. Yes the rules for operating legally this way were often overlooked by many, including VOSA themselves. The NLCA did not try that hard to get councils to license, this guy did it all on his own and won so there was a presedent so others councils would have to follow but the NLCA did not even follow this up http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=L ... forlicense |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Traffic Commisioner' Guidance on Stretch Limo Licencing |
no tips wrote: grandad wrote: no tips wrote: You can thank the NLCA for this mess, instead of pushing for all Councils to License Limos the NLCA went the back door way and went for Vosa O license.Which was never ment for this sort of Hire. It will all end up in Tears. With respect, The NLA did try pushing all councils to license Limousines that carrried up to 8 passengers. The problem was that many councils simply would not license them. Operators then had to look at the alternative way to run legally and the "O" license was the only other way to go. Yes the rules for operating legally this way were often overlooked by many, including VOSA themselves. The NLCA did not try that hard to get councils to license, this guy did it all on his own and won so there was a presedent so others councils would have to follow but the NLCA did not even follow this up http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=L ... forlicense If you note my comment, I did put that the NLA tried. Not the NLcA. When I first joined the NLA it was by invitation only. You had to satisfy the association that you were fully licensed BEFORE you could join. At one point it was me who had the job of checking the licensing status of new applicants before allowing them to become members. It all went pear shaped when certain individuals got control of the committee. At the AGM where this happened, I resigned as the membership secretary as soon as these people were voted in. |
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