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Non-payers, PHTM suggestions in November 2013 Edition
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Author:  Sussex [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Non-payers, PHTM suggestions in November 2013 Edition
I thought this is a very good breakdown on what laws are being breached and why.

PHTM's Legal position re non-payers
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Non-payers, PHTM suggestions in November 2013 Edition
that's pretty good
Author:  grandad [ Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:28 pm ]
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I used a similar thing posted on here by Mancityfan to convince the local police that making off without payment was a criminal matter and not a civil matter. They were not happy but they did follow it up and we got our money.
Author:  E7fan [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:08 am ]
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Police in glasgow give excellent support to taxi drivers and usually always charge non payers. Thats my experience anyway
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:09 am ]
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E7fan wrote:
Police in glasgow give excellent support to taxi drivers and usually always charge non payers. Thats my experience anyway

They have been well trained then.
Author:  Nidge2 [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:57 pm ]
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Quote:
2. If a person enters the vehicle and has
no money in his possession but fails
to inform the driver until the journey is
complete, he commits an offence
under Section 2 Fraud Act 2006 –
Obtaining services dishonestly.


Notts Police tried to get away without helping one of our guys a few months ago until I quoted the above.
Author:  toots [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:22 am ]
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Nidge2 wrote:
Quote:
2. If a person enters the vehicle and has
no money in his possession but fails
to inform the driver until the journey is
complete, he commits an offence
under Section 2 Fraud Act 2006 –
Obtaining services dishonestly.


Notts Police tried to get away without helping one of our guys a few months ago until he quoted the above.


Perhaps drivers should have such information posted somewhere in their vehicle so that customers can read it for themselves
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:28 am ]
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toots wrote:
Perhaps drivers should have such information posted somewhere in their vehicle so that customers can read it for themselves

As you know I am in Plymouth where this notice is from as quoted in PHTM. We have some who put in their cabs for passengers to read, we give a copy to the Police when they eventually stroll up, it does not make a blind bit of difference it is always, and I mean always, A CIVIL MATTER.
Author:  grandad [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:53 am ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
toots wrote:
Perhaps drivers should have such information posted somewhere in their vehicle so that customers can read it for themselves

As you know I am in Plymouth where this notice is from as quoted in PHTM. We have some who put in their cabs for passengers to read, we give a copy to the Police when they eventually stroll up, it does not make a blind bit of difference it is always, and I mean always, A CIVIL MATTER.

Then you need to take their collar number and report them to their senior officer and the Chief constable and then the home secretary. Just keep causing them grief until they understand.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:19 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
Then you need to take their collar number and report them to their senior officer and the Chief constable and then the home secretary. Just keep causing them grief until they understand.

That's is fair enough and a good way to go.

What I did though is all here - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22338 and now if I have dealings with the Police always record it. I have also got a front facing camera now. My problem is not the passengers it is LA and Police non-intervention!
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