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Author:  jogra4 [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Ringfencing

hi
can anyone point me to the correct laws/bylaws that say taxi licensing fees have to be ring fenced

Regards
jogra4

Author:  Sussex [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

jogra4 wrote:
hi
can anyone point me to the correct laws/bylaws that say taxi licensing fees have to be ring fenced

Regards
jogra4

Both section 53 (drivers) and section 70 (vehicles) of the 1976 act allow councils to set fees for those licenses. Any money received must be used on the licensing function.

Any fee money that has been gained by those sections, yet not used for the purposes set out in those sections, is being unlawfully used.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

are those PH, HC or just LICENSING rules?

Author:  captain cab [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

James Button discussed ringfencing at the NTA conference :D

Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

wannabeeahack wrote:
are those PH, HC

Yes.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

Cant wait to hear from our LO where they advertised the £15 charge to plate using a "new keeper" V5 slip

it was retro-fitted....advised after it was imposed

Author:  Sussex [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

wannabeeahack wrote:
Cant wait to hear from our LO where they advertised the £15 charge to plate using a "new keeper" V5 slip

it was retro-fitted....advised after it was imposed

Is that a licensing fee, or an extra akin to medicals and DBS checks?

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Cant wait to hear from our LO where they advertised the £15 charge to plate using a "new keeper" V5 slip

it was retro-fitted....advised after it was imposed

Is that a licensing fee, or an extra akin to medicals and DBS checks?


You tell me....

its just says "from October 24th, only a 28 day plate will be issued for new vehicles using the "new keeper" portion of the V5, after 28 days if the full V5 in the new keepers name is not produced the plate will be void, a £15 fee is payable to upgrade the plate"


the letter arrived October 27th

Author:  Sussex [ Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

wannabeeahack wrote:

You tell me....

I would say it's an extra that can, or can't be included in the license fee advertisement.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:

You tell me....

I would say it's an extra that can, or can't be included in the license fee advertisement.


So they can drop extra charges on us at any time for any amount for any reason they see fit?

Author:  Sussex [ Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

wannabeeahack wrote:
So they can drop extra charges on us at any time for any amount for any reason they see fit?

If they have consulted on them, and the charge has been agreed at committee.

Author:  jogra4 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

the sections mentioned don't say anything about ringfencing ?????

Author:  Sussex [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

jogra4 wrote:
the sections mentioned don't say anything about ringfencing ?????

Not really sure what you are on about.

The sections say councils can charge for the taxi/PH licensing function, or words to that effect.

They don't say for the taxi/PH licensing function and any other thing they wish.

You must remember councils can only do what the law says they can, they can't do anything other than that.

In short you don't need to see the ringfencing word, as the law only allows money to be spent on the taxi/PH licensing function.

Author:  jogra4 [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

Right ok got you i thought you would need the wording or they would get out of it thanks for clarifying this for me

john

Author:  Sussex [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ringfencing

jogra4 wrote:
Right ok got you i thought you would need the wording or they would get out of it thanks for clarifying this for me

john

Your welcome.

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