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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Hi guys,

Decided that I'm going to work for my self as a taxi driver, I have a question, i got arrested back in 1996.

That was the one and only time that i have ever been in trouble with the police and that was back then, I got let out the cop shop and then had to go back to the police station for a formal caution or warning but when i went back the police they didn't know what I was there for and they asked me what I was doing and who i wanted to see, I explained the situation and they said that the arresting officer wasn't at work on that day and that they'd be in touch, they never did.

I have the form to fill out for the local council and they have asked on the form if I've ever been cautioned, warned or convicted not "arrested" etc.

What should i do? shall i put down, arrested but NFA (no further action) as I am being honest as I can.

I was thinking of sending a "freedom of information" request to the local police under the data protection act to see what they hold on me and also the PNC before applying to the council.

Honesty is the best policy they say but would this be frowned upon by the local council.

If they find that I didn't put it down that could make things worse, how ever I'm not sure of the outcome now as i say when I went back to the police station they didn't know what I was there for.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:44 pm 
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Just put it on the form that you were cautioned. It isn't likely to affect your application from nearly 20 years ago and it may not even be on the DBS.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:58 pm 
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Thanks for that, thing is not even sure if i was cautioned etc. but really need to get the "badge"

I will put it down and speak the truth.

Thanks for your input, just wanted to ask advice.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:35 pm 
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GTI wrote:
Thanks for that, thing is not even sure if i was cautioned etc. but really need to get the "badge"

I will put it down and speak the truth.

Thanks for your input, just wanted to ask advice.

Tell the truth always as a CRB/DBS check will show what you've got anyway.

However it appears from what you said you weren't cautioned.

That said the offence you might have been cautioned for was 18 years ago, so you should be fine.

I wish you well.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:47 pm 
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ah thanks so much for your feedback.

I was silly when i was 21 years old, it was rough back then.

I want to make a "go" of it and i was always brought up to "treat people how you would like to be treat" and "speak to people how you'd like to be spoken too"

so thanks, I really want the taxi job, and after careful consideration and words of advice I'll put down that i was arrested and can't remember the outcome....really that's the truth....it was that long ago...

All I remember was the fact that when i turned up to the station they didn't have me down.

Thanks


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:47 am 
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Never, ever, accept a police caution, it stays on your record an awful long time as several friends have found out. They are apparently never "spent" convictions for the purpose of the Act. My view, if ever I got the chance of a "caution" or going to court would be if you've got enough to caution me, take me to court. Chances are they'll drop the matter. But that doesn't help you at the moment!

Honesty is the best policy in your case.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:56 am 
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roythebus wrote:
Never, ever, accept a police caution, it stays on your record an awful long time as several friends have found out. They are apparently never "spent" convictions for the purpose of the Act. My view, if ever I got the chance of a "caution" or going to court would be if you've got enough to caution me, take me to court. Chances are they'll drop the matter. But that doesn't help you at the moment!

Honesty is the best policy in your case.

Life is not always that simple.
A mate of mine was taking a group of ladies to Wimbledon a few years ago. This was in his stretched limo. About 1 mile from the drop he was stopped by the police. They were stopping all vehicles and searching them. They searched the boot and found a knife with a fixed blade of 3 1/2 inches. he was arrested at the scene and the group of ladies had to make their own way to the tennis. he was given the opportunity of accepting a police caution or faced a court appearance on terrorism charges because this was at a time when the terror threat was very real. had he opted to go to trial, his vehicle would have been impounded for god only knows how long and he would have been stuck in London with no means of getting his ladies home. Now i would guess that at some later stage the charge would have been lowered to something about carrying an illegal weapon which he was clearly guilty of. So what you are saying is that he should have gone to court only to plead guilty to the lesser charge and all the hassle that would have gone with it and not accepted the caution and gone on his way.

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:35 am 
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GTI wrote:
ah thanks so much for your feedback.

I was silly when i was 21 years old, it was rough back then.

I want to make a "go" of it and i was always brought up to "treat people how you would like to be treat" and "speak to people how you'd like to be spoken too"

so thanks, I really want the taxi job, and after careful consideration and words of advice I'll put down that i was arrested and can't remember the outcome....really that's the truth....it was that long ago...

All I remember was the fact that when i turned up to the station they didn't have me down.

Thanks

Some councils will look upon it as you were young and dums back in the day but others like our lot will lambast you for something you did 30 years ago. If it was a formal caution by the police they might not have put it through the box, even if they did it only stops in the box for 6 months in some cases.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:11 pm 
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Tell em, if you cant remember details at least state something


you wont have any problems, trust me :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:19 pm 
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I'm interested to know what information is held on me now, so I think i'm going to pay the £10.00 and ask for the info from my local police station as well as what's held on the PNC, there's 2 forms, one is the "Data Protection Act 1998" and that's £10.00 to the local police station and there's also a box that says tick here if you want info from the PNC computer, there's also a Subject access request form which is £10.00

I think both forms are pretty much the same, one is national and just PNC and the other is local including the PNC.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:42 pm 
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GTI wrote:
I'm interested to know what information is held on me now, so I think i'm going to pay the £10.00 and ask for the info from my local police station as well as what's held on the PNC, there's 2 forms, one is the "Data Protection Act 1998" and that's £10.00 to the local police station and there's also a box that says tick here if you want info from the PNC computer, there's also a Subject access request form which is £10.00

I think both forms are pretty much the same, one is national and just PNC and the other is local including the PNC.



I had an official caution when I was a kid for riding a motorbike across a road, that didn't show up on my CRB or Police check when they first came out.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 8:22 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
Never, ever, accept a police caution, it stays on your record an awful long time as several friends have found out. They are apparently never "spent" convictions for the purpose of the Act. My view, if ever I got the chance of a "caution" or going to court would be if you've got enough to caution me, take me to court. Chances are they'll drop the matter. But that doesn't help you at the moment!

Honesty is the best policy in your case.

I think the guidance coming from the Higher Courts and Gov are in fact making older irrelevant cautions/convictions spent.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Got my medical back from the doctors and handed the form in yesterday, I wrote a little paragraph with all that had went on and was as honest as possible, had a chat with the lady on reception and she said as long as I've been up front with them on the application form, filled out the enhanced CRB check and sent it all off.

Have my locality test on Tuesday. :)

Then got home today and there's a registered letter waiting for me at the post office, I have a feeling it's a response to my freedom of information request to the police on what is held on my records and the PNC computer.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:43 pm 
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GTI wrote:
filled out the enhanced CRB check and sent it all off.


Really???

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:42 pm 
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grandad wrote:
GTI wrote:
filled out the enhanced CRB check and sent it all off.


Really???

I suspect he means the DBS check.

Pernickety pants.

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