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Author:  cabby john [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  How does this pan out?
A couple of weeks ago the LA + the police decided to set up a speed trap on one of our flyovers (perhaps flyover being the operative word). The area is a non neighborhood neck of the woods but 30 mph is imposed. In many cases including yours truly it is a 40/45 mph area to safely drive @ say 2.00 a.m when not much traffic is around! However a few as you would expect drivers got caught exceeding the limit and got done by the police for fixed penalty fines + points etc (not a problem as such). It appears that on top of that, the LA also want to impose more punishment onto the drivers, that have already been punished!

My thoughts are this; 1. what rights do they have to do this? 2. Do they deal with other council employees who have been caught i.e on official council business Or driving council paid for vehicles in the same way, and are they applying so called discipline fairly across the board? My reasoning being is that they could be seen to be discriminating against the drivers if it is one way only........advice please.
Author:  bloodnock [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
LA's need reined back into their proper place, they should be the servants of the rate payers instead of trying to act like our masters, they go unchecked and run roughshod over all of us, they should not be allowed to impose secondary punishment to that already meted out by the courts.

The trouble is that they are never challenged, they have money (our money) to hire the best legal advisors and they know full well that we can't afford such luxuries. Their leaders are arrogant, the elected councillors just in it for whatever they can get...you and your family and your livelyhood don't matter a stuff to them, and until we get a more electorate sympathetic government to run the country and to who'll put the LA genie back in it's bottle things will not get any better.

My only hope is the likes of UKIP breaking up the current three party system and hastening in a new breed of caring politician that puts the voter at the very heart of their idealism.

And Pigs might fly........... :sad:
Author:  roythebus [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
As someone who drives professionally, you shouldn't be breaking the speed limit at any time. No doubt the council rules give them the right to take action against ph and taxi drivers who have been convicted of motoring offences, a bit like the Traffic commissioner can take action against the vocational licences of bus and lorry drivers, in effect a second conviction for the same offence.

And no, they probably don't take the same sort of action against their own employees as they are not seen to be putting the lives of paying passengers at risk.

Maybe someone should take it to the ECHR. Anyone rich enough?
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
cabby john wrote:
My thoughts are this; 1. what rights do they have to do this? 2. Do they deal with other council employees who have been caught i.e on official council business Or driving council paid for vehicles in the same way, and are they applying so called discipline fairly across the board? My reasoning being is that they could be seen to be discriminating against the drivers if it is one way only........advice please.

They have the rights to do anything, if a court views those actions 'fair and reasonable'.

It's not uncommon for a council to consider any conviction, be it traffic or otherwise. I think the public would expect that.

The same would apply to a licensee selling booze to under age kids. A court could act, and a council could take further license enforcement.

If the council write to you, or ask for a meeting, saying you have been a naughty boy, then go along with it. If they wish to take action in respect of suspensions or revocation then clearly that's when you have a ruck.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
bloodnock wrote:
LA's need reined back into their proper place, they should be the servants of the rate payers instead of trying to act like our masters, they go unchecked and run roughshod over all of us, they should not be allowed to impose secondary punishment to that already meted out by the courts.

The trouble is that they are never challenged, they have money (our money) to hire the best legal advisors and they know full well that we can't afford such luxuries. Their leaders are arrogant, the elected councillors just in it for whatever they can get...you and your family and your livelyhood don't matter a stuff to them, and until we get a more electorate sympathetic government to run the country and to who'll put the LA genie back in it's bottle things will not get any better.

My only hope is the likes of UKIP breaking up the current three party system and hastening in a new breed of caring politician that puts the voter at the very heart of their idealism.

And Pigs might fly........... :sad:


thats what UNIONS do for their members .....................................................dope.

If you Drive in public transport obviously all convictions MUST considered by the LA....................and if you have dangerous driving habits...................speeding you should be removed from the industry........................or gormo do you think dangerous drivers should be let loose in Public transport #-o #-o #-o #-o .

And yes council employees can and are disciplined for Driving offences obtained during working hours in council vehicles..................this includes dismissal.

do you know fekk all Bloodknock #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
cabby john wrote:
A couple of weeks ago the LA + the police decided to set up a speed trap on one of our flyovers (perhaps flyover being the operative word). The area is a non neighborhood neck of the woods but 30 mph is imposed. In many cases including yours truly it is a 40/45 mph area to safely drive


another who decides whats a safe limit....

enjoy the fine+points
Author:  cabby john [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
wannabeeahack wrote:
cabby john wrote:
A couple of weeks ago the LA + the police decided to set up a speed trap on one of our flyovers (perhaps flyover being the operative word). The area is a non neighborhood neck of the woods but 30 mph is imposed. In many cases including yours truly it is a 40/45 mph area to safely drive


another who decides whats a safe limit....

enjoy the fine+points


Of course we have so many saints on here who NEVER ever speed and are totally law abiding :roll:

Let me put things into perspective.

I do not condone speeding in neighbourhoods, but I do use my discretion when the powers that be, put speed limits where and when they are not needed. If you do not like that - then tough, I just do not swallow BS in any form.

As an additive, any speed over the limit is in an empty cab, so no one in the cab is ever at risk. When I talk about speeding I am talking about "A" roads in Newport with the same layout, are 40 mph - in Cardiff the land of effing traffic lights the same layout is 30 mph - no difference in terms of safety......just BS to grab money off of the motorist. When I talk about speeding I am talking about 10% +2 mph on top that a police office had the discretion to use - but a cam does not.

Out of the drivers caught, only one was speeding with passengers in and that was in a non resi area.
Author:  cabby john [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
Quote:
If you Drive in public transport obviously all convictions MUST considered by the LA....................and if you have dangerous driving habits...................speeding you should be removed from the industry...



Ah I get it.........laws to suit! I guess it is alright to break laws in pursuit of "Civil Disobedience".....but you are really naughty if you speed a bit #-o

We are not talking about boy racers bumping 60/70 in a 30 area, it is more to do with ludicrous speed limits imposed, that even the cops will not generally book you for.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
cabby john wrote:
Quote:
If you Drive in public transport obviously all convictions MUST considered by the LA....................and if you have dangerous driving habits...................speeding you should be removed from the industry...



Ah I get it.........laws to suit! I guess it is alright to break laws in pursuit of "Civil Disobedience".....but you are really naughty if you speed a bit #-o

We are not talking about boy racers bumping 60/70 in a 30 area, it is more to do with ludicrous speed limits imposed, that even the cops will not generally book you for.

i HAVE NOT DEFENDED SPEEDING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHEEP DIP :badgrin: :badgrin: EVIDENTLY YOU ARE EVEN FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT DRIVERS #-o #-o

CHANGED YER NAME TO KINNOCK HAVE YER ...................YOU KNOW 2 FACED LYING DESPICABLE IMMORAL SYCOPHANTIC ASSSLICKING MONEY GRABBING SHEEP SHAGGING GUTLESS [WELSH] KKUNT................................... :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
cabby john wrote:
Out of the drivers caught, only one was speeding with passengers in and that was in a non resi area.



thats ok then...... =D>


45 in a 30 is 50% over and a court job int it?
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
wannabeeahack wrote:
cabby john wrote:
Out of the drivers caught, only one was speeding with passengers in and that was in a non resi area.



thats ok then...... =D>


45 in a 30 is 50% over and a court job int it?


FEKK ME I AGREE WITH THE CRETIN...........................SHEEPY YOUR LOSING IT :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  roythebus [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
I think this subject has been done to death on Pepipoo over the years.
Author:  cabby john [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
wannabeeahack wrote:
cabby john wrote:
Out of the drivers caught, only one was speeding with passengers in and that was in a non resi area.



thats ok then...... =D>


45 in a 30 is 50% over and a court job int it?


It is so difficult dealing with idiots.

First of all smart ar$e read the post as opposed to what you want or think you want to read!

Quote:
In many cases including yours truly it is a 40/45 mph area to safely drive


Read the post! Nowhere do I say that anyone actually did or does that speed! what I do say is that it would that "in many cases" it would be an area "including" yours truly whereby it would be safe to drive @40/45 mph.....you are one pompous ass who likes to pull people up on grammar that you are no different on.......and then go all sacrosanct re the roads as if you are an angel. At times I can see where the guy who ran away from his country is coming from, he ran away because they could not grow spuds.....cannot remember his name - something to do with Pikey, apparently he travels a lot on the road :roll:
Author:  cabby john [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
trotskys twin wrote:
cabby john wrote:
Quote:
If you Drive in public transport obviously all convictions MUST considered by the LA....................and if you have dangerous driving habits...................speeding you should be removed from the industry...



Ah I get it.........laws to suit! I guess it is alright to break laws in pursuit of "Civil Disobedience".....but you are really naughty if you speed a bit #-o

We are not talking about boy racers bumping 60/70 in a 30 area, it is more to do with ludicrous speed limits imposed, that even the cops will not generally book you for.

i HAVE NOT DEFENDED SPEEDING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHEEP DIP :badgrin: :badgrin: EVIDENTLY YOU ARE EVEN FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORT DRIVERS #-o #-o

CHANGED YER NAME TO KINNOCK HAVE YER ...................YOU KNOW 2 FACED LYING DESPICABLE IMMORAL SYCOPHANTIC ASSSLICKING MONEY GRABBING SHEEP SHAGGING GUTLESS [WELSH] KKUNT................................... :badgrin: :badgrin:



Hey Paddywhack.........just like Wanna.........you need to learn to read! Annnnd while yer at it - sort your "quotes" out, its people like you that give pikeys a bad name [-X
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How does this pan out?
So it never happened....

keep taking the tablets mate
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