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Author:  charles007 [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Meters
This is an area that I have never understod.

If a Council make an it that all Hackneys Have to have meters what is the council responerbily in that what do the council have to do.

Can then a Hackney Firm who runs 28 Hackenys allow then to have other Tariffs to rum below the Councils fare by half that is to say the council fare are £160 some driver have tariffs on the meter that startes at 80p which is now causeing problems on the rank.

can any one tell be what is the facts about meters.
Author:  roythebus [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
The LA sets the maximum fare that can be charged in its area. It's down to the driver or firm if they want to charge less than what's shown on the meter, simples!
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
My view is that all hackney meters should be set to the council's maximum tariff.

If drivers choose to discount then so be it, but the meter should display the council's set tariff for hackneys.

PH can have whatever rate they wish on the meter.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
Sussex, we agree.

If a meter is set to below the maximum, technically the driver could demand more than the fare shown and defend his demand by saying it is less than the fare would have been if the meter was correct - a quagmire.

There are still 2 areas I believe, that do not have meters in Taxis, lunacy in my opinion.

I think meters should be:

1. Mandatory.
2. Checked and sealed by Enforcement Officers, not meter Agents. After testing over a measured distance.
3. Checked at random by Licensing Officers or Trading standards Officers again testing over a measured distance.

I foresee that in the near future meters will have to produce receipts, either printed or, if the powers that be have the intelligence, by transfer to a mobile phone. I hope it achieved through natural wastage rather than all of us having to get new meters all at the same time.
Author:  skippy41 [ Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
Every meter in the Borders is set to the council tariff sheet, and the meter checked on a measured distance, if correct it is sealed with a tamper proof council seal, (this just disintegrates if its removed, for any reason and the vehicle has to stay off the road until rechecked and sealed)
All cars are then issued at the time with a new tariff sheet, drivers are then free to discount from the fare shown at the destination.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
skippy41 wrote:
Every meter in the Borders is set to the council tariff sheet, and the meter checked on a measured distance, if correct it is sealed with a tamper proof council seal, (this just disintegrates if its removed, for any reason and the vehicle has to stay off the road until rechecked and sealed)
All cars are then issued at the time with a new tariff sheet, drivers are then free to discount from the fare shown at the destination.


as you do dont you bollock chops #-o #-o
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
Chris the Fish wrote:
Sussex, we agree.

If a meter is set to below the maximum, technically the driver could demand more than the fare shown and defend his demand by saying it is less than the fare would have been if the meter was correct - a quagmire.

There are still 2 areas I believe, that do not have meters in Taxis, lunacy in my opinion.


our LA have hack meters, the only 2 bases in town have a fixed £4 fare, i suspect the majority of hack vehicle drivers dont start the meter, if they did and it showed under £4 the whole system could crumble

rate 1
1st 1 mile £3.60, (and ive done lots of jobs under a mile...)

persons +2....20p
pushchair/pram/large case....20p
each dog (except assist dog)......£2
soiling charge .......£50

rate 2 4.80

Driver shall not be entitled to ask more than metered fare, a set fare may be agreed beforehand but not above metered fare

Of course all that goes out the window once outside the LA
Author:  skippy41 [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
wannabeeahack wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
Sussex, we agree.

If a meter is set to below the maximum, technically the driver could demand more than the fare shown and defend his demand by saying it is less than the fare would have been if the meter was correct - a quagmire.

There are still 2 areas I believe, that do not have meters in Taxis, lunacy in my opinion.


our LA have hack meters, the only 2 bases in town have a fixed £4 fare, i suspect the majority of hack vehicle drivers dont start the meter, if they did and it showed under £4 the whole system could crumble

rate 1
1st 1 mile £3.60, (and ive done lots of jobs under a mile...)

Quote:
persons +2....20p
pushchair/pram/large case....20p

each dog (except assist dog)......£2
soiling charge .......£50

rate 2 4.80

Driver shall not be entitled to ask more than metered fare, a set fare may be agreed beforehand but not above metered fare

Of course all that goes out the window once outside the LA


Why are you charging for extra passengers, or prams, when most tariff are for the vehicle, with up to the permitted number of persons, it should not matter if you have one or 4 passengers the price should be the same the only time you should charge more is if you have 5 or more like fare and a half for a 6 seater, why charge for luggage and prams when your getting a fare :roll: :roll: :roll:
Author:  trotskys twin [ Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
skippy41 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
Sussex, we agree.

If a meter is set to below the maximum, technically the driver could demand more than the fare shown and defend his demand by saying it is less than the fare would have been if the meter was correct - a quagmire.

There are still 2 areas I believe, that do not have meters in Taxis, lunacy in my opinion.


our LA have hack meters, the only 2 bases in town have a fixed £4 fare, i suspect the majority of hack vehicle drivers dont start the meter, if they did and it showed under £4 the whole system could crumble

rate 1
1st 1 mile £3.60, (and ive done lots of jobs under a mile...)

Quote:
persons +2....20p
pushchair/pram/large case....20p

each dog (except assist dog)......£2
soiling charge .......£50

rate 2 4.80

Driver shall not be entitled to ask more than metered fare, a set fare may be agreed beforehand but not above metered fare

Of course all that goes out the window once outside the LA


Why are you charging for extra passengers, or prams, when most tariff are for the vehicle, with up to the permitted number of persons, it should not matter if you have one or 4 passengers the price should be the same the only time you should charge more is if you have 5 or more like fare and a half for a 6 seater, why charge for luggage and prams when your getting a fare :roll: :roll: :roll:


confirmation if it were needed ....................Skippy old bollock chops is a MUG =D> =D> =D>
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
skippy41 wrote:
Why are you charging for extra passengers, or prams, when most tariff are for the vehicle, with up to the permitted number of persons, it should not matter if you have one or 4 passengers the price should be the same the only time you should charge more is if you have 5 or more like fare and a half for a 6 seater, why charge for luggage and prams when your getting a fare :roll: :roll: :roll:


I dont but I would if i could......
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
so what if a company decides to charge lower than the council rate? as per Curzon the customer expects to pay what they see on the meter....
Author:  toots [ Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
Skippy wrote:
Why are you charging for extra passengers, or prams, when most tariff are for the vehicle, with up to the permitted number of persons, it should not matter if you have one or 4 passengers the price should be the same the only time you should charge more is if you have 5 or more like fare and a half for a 6 seater, why charge for luggage and prams when your getting a fare


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a vehicle cost more in fuel if it's laden so I guess that may be why drivers would like to charge more, seeing as fuel is the single most expensive thing that gets the vehicle moving :wink:
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
captain cab wrote:
so what if a company decides to charge lower than the council rate? as per Curzon the customer expects to pay what they see on the meter....


or less....but not more
Author:  skippy41 [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
toots wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Why are you charging for extra passengers, or prams, when most tariff are for the vehicle, with up to the permitted number of persons, it should not matter if you have one or 4 passengers the price should be the same the only time you should charge more is if you have 5 or more like fare and a half for a 6 seater, why charge for luggage and prams when your getting a fare


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a vehicle cost more in fuel if it's laden so I guess that may be why drivers would like to charge more, seeing as fuel is the single most expensive thing that gets the vehicle moving :wink:


Toots the tariff sheets should state for 1 to 4 passengers then 5 to 6 or more, like ours
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Meters
I am intrigued Skippy. By your own "Logic" there should be no difference at 5 or 6 passengers, yet because it is on your tariff you think we should all go with that. Astounding.

By a better logic, increasing with each additional passenger may be seen by many to be a far better option.

I have over the years, found myself roped in to act as a house remover (or at least contents of a flat) and some things are very heavy or damn awkward. You had better believe I am going to be putting the armchair on as an extra, & the coffee table, fridge, rolled up mattress, 6 bulging suitcases etc.

By the way, when someone is doing a flit because they haven't paid the rent, you are going to want Money upfront.
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