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| Author: | x-ray [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ? |
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| Author: | Cabby John 1 [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
x-ray wrote: Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ? I would imagine the answer is yes. If I as a Hackney driver furnished the L.A with a medical certificate saying my back could not take take the strain.....then that would be that, I would be able to work on. And then! You also have to take into account the argument of "Discrimination of the Disabled". Having said that, it would penultimately depend on the severity of the disablement. First and foremost it is obviously going to come to light, so send the L.A a letter asking for their thoughts on that one, and I mean a letter - do not just ring up......get it in writing (as that will make them think) and then take it from there. AS aside, I know of a guy with a prosthetic arm who drives for a P.H company......so who knows. |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
x-ray wrote: Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ? Simply put, yes. You may have to have a Group 2 medical (though I have a separate gripe about that) to prove safety to drive, a letter from your GP saying you can't deal with wheelchairs (if luggage too is problem, include it) and the LA will have to grant an exception even if they have it in their Licensing Policy. This would cover existing and prospective drivers. They could insist that the vehicle remains WAV and all accessories required (Belts, Restraints and Ramps) are carried as the "Carer accompanying may utilise". As to the Group 2 thing, if it is not a requirement in Byelaws I don't see how it can be insisted on as it can only be a condition, conditions can't be put on Hackney Drivers. I am in dispute with my own LA over this at the moment. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Chris the Fish wrote: As to the Group 2 thing, if it is not a requirement in Byelaws I don't see how it can be insisted on as it can only be a condition, conditions can't be put on Hackney Drivers. I am in dispute with my own LA over this at the moment. Unless, like our council, they issue duel licenses. |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
grandad wrote: Unless, like our council, they issue duel licenses. Which is dubious at best. You should be allowed to apply for, and have issued, a Hackney Badge as per the Act of 1847. It is an on-going battle in many places and should be stamped out. |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Further to my last, if you were "Revoked" due to not following a condition, could/would the Magistrates reinstate the Hackney part of the badge on appeal? I think a good brief or even a smart driver representing him/herself could achieve it. |
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Chris the Fish wrote: Further to my last, if you were "Revoked" due to not following a condition, could/would the Magistrates reinstate the Hackney part of the badge on appeal? I think a good brief or even a smart driver representing him/herself could achieve it. ONLY MUGS REPRESENT THEMSELVES FFS 
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
so long as a WAV is provided, who/where does it say the driver must help load it "driver".......not "carer" |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
wannabeeahack wrote: so long as a WAV is provided, who/where does it say the driver must help load it "driver".......not "carer" In the bye laws as a rule. " Driver who cares." |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Chris the Fish wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: so long as a WAV is provided, who/where does it say the driver must help load it "driver".......not "carer" In the bye laws as a rule. show me where |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
Its a good one isnt it, DISDIS might demand a driver helps, so a disabled driver cant be a driver and thats discrimination..... |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
x-ray wrote: Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ? yes, the council can / should offer an exemption |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
wannabeeahack wrote: show me where Well I had wade through your Councils requirements, thought it was barking (and I don't mean the London Borough), have to admit though that you do not have to assist the Wheelchair bound in your LA. I am not sure if it is covered in the 2010 Dis Dis Act, I think not. So if you get a wheelchair passenger, assist with any luggage then feel free to watch the bugger struggle. This made me laugh.... Council’s Vehicle Licensing Criteria All vehicles presented for licensing as hackney carriages must be purpose built wheelchair accessible London type cabs which comply with the specifications of the Public Carriage Office of the Metropolitan Police. At the present time only two types of vehicle comply with this specification. 1. The Tamworth built Metro-Cab with up to six passenger seats or 2. The Coventry built Fairway Cab produced by LTI Limited Carbodies Note All Metro Cabs, and all Fairway Cabs produced after the 1 February 1989, are constructed to be wheelchair accessible. Fairway Cabs which were constructed before that date will be acceptable for licensing if they were originally constructed to be wheelchair accessible or if they have been converted by an authorised company that have carried out the conversion to comply with the requirements of the Public Carriage Office and there is produced a certificate confirming compliance with these requirements. Nice to see Tamworth keep their documentation up to date. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
x-ray wrote: Can a driver be licensed as a Hackney carriage driver (in a WAV area) if he/she is unable to load or unload a wheelchair ? Yes. |
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| Author: | Cabby John 1 [ Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Disabled Hackney carriage driver |
trotskys twin wrote: Chris the Fish wrote: Further to my last, if you were "Revoked" due to not following a condition, could/would the Magistrates reinstate the Hackney part of the badge on appeal? I think a good brief or even a smart driver representing him/herself could achieve it. ONLY MUGS REPRESENT THEMSELVES FFS Shurrup you dope....done it for years - cannot rely on Union dopes 
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