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Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
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Author:  Memorable [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
Several councils with mixed fleets restrict the saloon car licences to those who were operators some years ago (in one instance I know of, 10 years ago). No new saloon licences are being issued - and haven't been for many years.

Surely this is in breach of the Equalities Act? WAv's cost a lot more to buy and run, thus saloon car operators have a major financial advantage.

Since a number of those from other countries were not even eligible to work in the country at the "cut off" time, they can never ever get a saloon car licence, so will be forever at a disadvantage. If those from other countries are disadvantaged, even if it was inadvertent, and can never compete on an equal basis by running these cheaper vehicles, is that not discrimination under the Act?

Does anyone know if this has ever been tested with any council? All thoughts appreciated.
Author:  mancityfan [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
When councils went wav, they gave grandfather rights to the existing fleet, if those same owners wish to put another vehicle on, they will have to put on a wav the same as all new applicants.
Author:  Memorable [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
Hi Man City Fan

Thanks for quick reply.

I realise that the grandfather operators would also have to have a WAV for a new licence so there is no direct indiscrimination.

However, the fact that the only operators at the "cut off" point were pretty much white/British then these are unduly favoured. The newcomers to the country can never fully integrate or compete on an equal basis, so will always be financially disadvantaged. Councils have a duty to promote integration. There is no direct discrimination, but I think this may well count as indirect discrimination because it means the operators with the best financial advantage will always be white/British purely because immigration has mainly taken place since that date.

I just wondered if this had been tested anywhere?
Author:  x-ray [ Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
Here we go. #-o
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
yeah I'm a bit miffed that I haven't lived in a council house and I never had the right to buy :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
captain cab wrote:
yeah I'm a bit miffed that I haven't lived in a council house and I never had the right to buy


Dream on, most councils sold or GAVE the housing stock to housing associations* (or created their own) to avoid having to sell to tenants, they then had to pay the tenants housing benefits to the HA's.......


I thing envelopes may have changed hands under the table



*Housing ssociations being registered charities dont have to sell to tenants
Author:  captain cab [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
I was being facetious ffs - my grandparents bought their council house - and I know numerous others that did.

In respect of this case - I don't know of any challenge to limitation by was of a race equality issue.
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
Memorable wrote:
Surely this is in breach of the Equalities Act? WAv's cost a lot more to buy and run, thus saloon car operators have a major financial advantage.

I agree with the broad thrust of what you are saying, but the issue isn't an Equalities one, it's an unfair competition one.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
captain cab wrote:
I was being facetious ffs - my grandparents bought their council house - and I know numerous others that did.

In respect of this case - I don't know of any challenge to limitation by was of a race equality issue.


SELLING COUNCIL HOUSING DESPICABLE #-o #-o #-o BUYING THEM EQUALLY SO #-o #-o #-o NOT ALLOWING THE RECEIPTS TO BE SPENT FOR BUILDING MORE TO REPLACE THOSE SOLD ...................FEKKING CRIMINAL ..........BARSTERD THATCHERISM :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Author:  mancityfan [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mixed Fleet - Equalities Act?
Memorable wrote:
Hi Man City Fan

Thanks for quick reply.

I realise that the grandfather operators would also have to have a WAV for a new licence so there is no direct indiscrimination.

However, the fact that the only operators at the "cut off" point were pretty much white/British then these are unduly favoured. The newcomers to the country can never fully integrate or compete on an equal basis, so will always be financially disadvantaged. Councils have a duty to promote integration. There is no direct discrimination, but I think this may well count as indirect discrimination because it means the operators with the best financial advantage will always be white/British purely because immigration has mainly taken place since that date.

I just wondered if this had been tested anywhere?


In my experience most of them are owned by Asians, so it would seem that it's the White/British that's being discriminated.
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