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| Author: | charles007 [ Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | well |
just in an almighty round with a local council over a member who as a complaint made against him over (Taxi Licensing Issue ) and the council saying the association cant attend with our member, and now to whom we had suggested the option of not attending the Interview Under Caution (IUC) and supported his decision. Not surprisingly the Council bureaucrats were very, happy, (indeed as judged by their responses to me and our member {who they!! honestly - I don't know how they sleep!!!!} but at the end of the day they clearly could not do a thing about it. Their little game was foiled - and quite right too!!! Our advice? DON'T GO! They can't make you. They say they conduct these interviews under PACE rules. That is nonsense. PACE rules are meant for use on Police premises. They allow for Legal Aid solicitors and contain a number of other Police precautionary processes which other authorities need not (indeed cannot!) follow. On other premises they may say you can bring your own solicitor (at cost of an arm and a leg of course!) But not a relative/friend/representative may not be allowed ( to say nothing - under their very strange rules!). DON'T GO! I'm not suggesting this as an easy option out for people who are really guilty. This is about proper process and fairness to the individual under suspicion. All too often an unguarded comment in a pressured and difficult situation will cause a lot of trouble - even when innocent. For these reasons DON'T GO! |
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: well |
charles007 wrote: just in an almighty round with a local council over a member who as a complaint made against him over (Taxi Licensing Issue ) and the council saying the association cant attend with our member, and now to whom we had suggested the option of not attending the Interview Under Caution (IUC) and supported his decision. Not surprisingly the Council bureaucrats were very, happy, (indeed as judged by their responses to me and our member {who they!! honestly - I don't know how they sleep!!!!} but at the end of the day they clearly could not do a thing about it. Their little game was foiled - and quite right too!!! Our advice? DON'T GO! They can't make you. They say they conduct these interviews under PACE rules. That is nonsense. PACE rules are meant for use on Police premises. They allow for Legal Aid solicitors and contain a number of other Police precautionary processes which other authorities need not (indeed cannot!) follow. On other premises they may say you can bring your own solicitor (at cost of an arm and a leg of course!) But not a relative/friend/representative may not be allowed ( to say nothing - under their very strange rules!). DON'T GO! I'm not suggesting this as an easy option out for people who are really guilty. This is about proper process and fairness to the individual under suspicion. All too often an unguarded comment in a pressured and difficult situation will cause a lot of trouble - even when innocent. For these reasons DON'T GO! And their next step will be Charles? and your response ? I think this Driver will need some expert advice soon when he's suspended if he had half a brain he'd be in Unite RMT or GMB
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| Author: | charles007 [ Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: well |
trotskys twin wrote: charles007 wrote: just in an almighty round with a local council over a member who as a complaint made against him over (Taxi Licensing Issue ) and the council saying the association cant attend with our member, and now to whom we had suggested the option of not attending the Interview Under Caution (IUC) and supported his decision. Not surprisingly the Council bureaucrats were very, happy, (indeed as judged by their responses to me and our member {who they!! honestly - I don't know how they sleep!!!!} but at the end of the day they clearly could not do a thing about it. Their little game was foiled - and quite right too!!! Our advice? DON'T GO! They can't make you. They say they conduct these interviews under PACE rules. That is nonsense. PACE rules are meant for use on Police premises. They allow for Legal Aid solicitors and contain a number of other Police precautionary processes which other authorities need not (indeed cannot!) follow. On other premises they may say you can bring your own solicitor (at cost of an arm and a leg of course!) But not a relative/friend/representative may not be allowed ( to say nothing - under their very strange rules!). DON'T GO! I'm not suggesting this as an easy option out for people who are really guilty. This is about proper process and fairness to the individual under suspicion. All too often an unguarded comment in a pressured and difficult situation will cause a lot of trouble - even when innocent. For these reasons DON'T GO! And their next step will be Charles? and your response ? I think this Driver will need some expert advice soon when he's suspended if he had half a brain he'd be in Unite RMT or GMB ![]() I most be very bad at my job.
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